From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: diary-lib.el how about adding diary-schedule Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 21:48:18 +0200 Message-ID: <87sfywt2bh.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87tujkfng4.fsf@hillenius.net> <87tujj2bc5.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6la7x33.fsf@hillenius.net> <878s0qkiwp.fsf@web.de> <87pmu22csm.fsf@hillenius.net> <87czq0s02r.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34364"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?utf-8?Q?G=C4=B3s?= Hillenius , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 26 21:49:02 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJLMz-0008cG-UB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 21:49:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48048 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJLMy-00046L-4C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:49:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48766) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJLMS-0003Rx-Ev for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:48:28 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:40620) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJLMQ-0001IW-Kp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:48:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=vBUdljUiaHLVHVs8cvjXMCpv9gnLGMnDR/RXsRRJZPY=; b=MkSmG+e1FCSm7Dq+u57D2HlXrM TkfHO6Vt5nzYjqQroUCVA7FJgA0suEYc6bw1bYNg7naBFRAAtuttov4vJlxx2mVuQ2BxEgIPOg9PA RnDp+jKuldCK+YAczh3OgkjmZV+zzOvwtjAW3rs04FKh2BrbJHgzGb7ORxCGHUSHlSh4=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJLMJ-0005R8-Sy; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 21:48:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87czq0s02r.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Thu, 26 Aug 2021 17:22:04 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273080 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > It could say clearer that DATE is bound > as a (dynamical) variable, and it should also say that the variable > ENTRY is also provided (bound to the text found after the expression in > the diary file - see the docstring of `diary-list-sexp-entries' which > explains this better.) > > Maybe also say that the predefined diary sexp functions use these > variables implicitly, so that users are not confused about the fact that > most diary sexps don't contain a reference to DATE. Yup, sounds like a good idea. > (3) Something else? What I don't like about the diary part of the > manual is that it tells so many details before you get to the above > paragraph that most people think this is complicated magic. Whereby > diary sexps are only trivial Elisp sexps that can refer to the variables > DATE and ENTRY and whose return value is interpreted by the > diary/calendar (how the return value is actually interpreted is > explained quite well OTOH). > > What do you think? Well, the node starts with some examples, and that shows users how simple these are, really... we don't get into all the details until after that. > I also ask Lars because I very much hope he is motivated to make the > change, should we agree about something. This is because I don't speak > texinfo, and I will soon be on vacation. I you have a new text here, I can do the texification. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no