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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282888 Archived-At: Arthur Miller writes: > Than yes, Emacs would need some other abstraction layer. Is it > realistic to use just Cairo, since it is already in use in Emacs? Also > Cairo has support for using GPU. It is just that there are rumors that > Cairo is deprecated or not developed any more, but I don't know how > true it is, I don't really follow the web rumors. These aren't rumors, the Cairo developers are indeed not very active anymore. GPU acceleration is also really just supported on X, and getting Cairo to work on any other platform is a massive PITA.