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From: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, luangruo@yahoo.com, schwab@linux-m68k.org,
	rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Can watermarking Unicode text using invisible differences sneak through Emacs, or can Emacs detect it?
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 18:36:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sft9m66y.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837dalfp4t.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:29:22 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 11:55:25 +0200
>> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>> Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, luangruo@yahoo.com, schwab@linux-m68k.org,
>>  rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> > Reading the documentation of the various glyphless-* knobs, I wonder if
>> > it would make sense to provide another group for
>> > glyphless-char-display-control?  'no-font is not helpful on my TTY, IIUC
>> > because terminal-coding-system says "utf-8-unix"?).
>> > 
>> > Maybe 'no-display, meaning (null (char-displayable-p CHAR))?
>> 
>> Isn't that what glyphless-char-display-control already does on a TTY
>> for no-font?  We just need to set up the table for such characters.
>
> Or maybe we should install the below?

Ah, yes, that does improve the situation quite a bit here (if that
matters: Linux 5.16.1 on openSUSE Tumbleweed; 5.10.92 on Debian 11): all
the characters that we discussed here and showed up as diamonds (ffi, ⚀)
now show up as \uHHHH escape sequences.

(I just noticed that there seem to be a TTY glyph for fi on Tumbleweed,
but not on Debian 11 🤔)

>> But I don't think that displaying the hex code is the best alternative
>> for this particular use case, as displaying the ASCII equivalents is
>> much better.

Right, wholehearted agreement.  I only mentioned the hex codes because
they seemed (1) more informative than the infamous diamonds, (2) less
effort to implement than displaying the ASCII equivalent, (3) also
applicable to other characters (e.g. symbols & emojis).

With your patch, none of these points remain relevant.  Thanks!



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-27 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-19  4:15 Can watermarking Unicode text using invisible differences sneak through Emacs, or can Emacs detect it? Richard Stallman
2022-01-19  4:47 ` Po Lu
2022-01-19 10:05   ` Phil Sainty
2022-01-19 11:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-21  4:13       ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-21  7:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-22  4:37           ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-22  6:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-24  4:33               ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-24  5:06                 ` Po Lu
2022-01-25  4:17                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-25  4:58                     ` Po Lu
2022-01-24 12:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25  4:16                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-25  6:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25 12:12                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25  4:16                   ` New feature: displaying ligature characters in the buffer Richard Stallman
2022-01-25  6:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-27  4:12                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-27  7:58                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25 11:08                   ` Can watermarking Unicode text using invisible differences sneak through Emacs, or can Emacs detect it? Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-01-25 12:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-26  3:39                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-26  5:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-28 13:04                           ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-28 13:31                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30  4:17                               ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-30  7:36                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-31  4:02                                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-31 13:05                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-01  5:06                                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-01 14:57                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02  3:58                                           ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-02 12:28                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-03  4:23                                               ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-03  7:53                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-03  8:16                                                   ` Yuri Khan
2022-02-03  9:26                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-04  3:52                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-04  4:56                                                     ` Yuri Khan
2022-02-06  4:13                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-04  8:10                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  4:13                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-03 20:28                                                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-04  7:07                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05  4:20                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-05 13:55                                                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-05 14:06                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05 14:12                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  1:29                                                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-06  8:30                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 10:38                                                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-06 10:44                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 10:54                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-02-06  1:10                                                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-06  4:16                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-06  4:16                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-06 11:29                                                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-04  3:52                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-04  8:03                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  4:13                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-06  8:56                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07  5:11                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-07 13:16                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-08  3:55                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-08 12:20                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-09  4:06                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-09 13:50                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-10  3:57                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-10  6:26                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-12  3:57                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-12  7:36                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-14  4:13                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-14 12:07                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-15  4:33                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-15 13:32                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-16  4:14                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-16 12:10                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-19  4:54                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-12 20:10                                                                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-14  4:14                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-26  8:20                         ` Andreas Schwab
2022-01-27  4:13                           ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-27  6:39                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-27  8:13                               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-01-27  9:55                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-27 10:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-27 17:36                                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec [this message]
2022-01-27 18:38                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-20  3:17     ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-20  4:54       ` Phil Sainty
2022-01-20  6:39         ` tomas
2022-01-20 17:58           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-22  4:37           ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-22  5:16             ` Po Lu
2022-01-20  7:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-20  6:35       ` Tim Cross
2022-01-20  7:39         ` tomas
2022-01-20  8:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-20  7:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-20  8:17         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-21  4:14         ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-19  8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 17:36 ` T.V Raman

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