From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master af0ea35ea0: Tweak how functions are formatted in Implementation in *Help* Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2022 13:57:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87sfqujs5o.fsf@gnus.org> References: <164872671963.30191.4037902323881017518@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220331113841.3BBFAC0581F@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87pmm2qnkl.fsf@gmail.com> <87h77bliwl.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgl3im3j.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17610"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Robert Pluim , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 03 13:59:27 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1naytD-0004QG-Ih for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2022 13:59:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43672 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1naytC-0004nK-Ge for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2022 07:59:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52698) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nayrc-0002WJ-6W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2022 07:57:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=49742 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nayra-00029D-Iu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2022 07:57:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ulEANxI6Mw5wXpTIoSZjr1H21jswLPtIbaiOVXZu2+U=; b=Lb3qSdde2l7ZGXePrXWB7DwLVG PfLRUMzIzOb7lK8uAjOCww0VMZDixDJYZ3E0Y23lJHydim7IFDkJ1sfclg1/Sf3aWaSlo8jcIacaq PTcBpxL0/UfSZoSwAEd9Z85iLvIlaxihKYPO4E7EPhN5P0MQpgAom+qJ1XSdlEWlI/94=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nayrU-0007P4-BH; Sun, 03 Apr 2022 13:57:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 02 Apr 2022 15:30:15 -0400") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:287733 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I don't think it's more confusing than before, though. :-/ > > Before your recent changes it was: > > [...] > > ((SPECIALIZER (head derived-mode))) in =E2=80=98cl-generic.el=E2=80= =99. > > Support for (derived-mode MODE) specializers. > Used internally for the (major-mode MODE) context specializers. > > :extra "typeof" (TYPE) in =E2=80=98cl-generic.el=E2=80=99. And I found that very confusing -- I didn't really know what it was trying to express before this bug report. > Maybe a way to solve the problem is to use something like: > > [...] > > (cl-generic-generalizers (SPECIALIZER (head derived-mode))) in > =E2=80=98cl-generic.el=E2=80=99. > > Support for (derived-mode MODE) specializers. > Used internally for the (major-mode MODE) context specializers. > > (cl-generic-generalizers TYPE) in =E2=80=98cl-generic.el=E2=80=99. > :extra "typeof" I still don't understand what the :extra "typeof" is trying to tell me. :-)=20 > Of course the `cl-generic-generalizers` is always redundant and risks > pushing the line length past the window width, which was some of the > reasons why I originally used just: We could format this better, yes. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no