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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290158 Archived-At: Hello, On Mon 23 May 2022 at 10:56am +03, Juri Linkov wrote: >>> If we miss some of them out because we've since added C-x 5 5, >>> we are asking the user to keep track of which things under C-x 4 have >>> bindings under C-x 5 and which don't -- one has to remember that C-x 4 >>> C-j exists but C-x 5 C-j doesn't. >> >> I meant: one has to remember that C-x 5 p and C-x 5 d exist but >> C-x 5 C-j doesn't. > > For new commands that don't have a C-x 4 binding > it makes sense to use C-x 5 5, but if a binding > already exists in the C-x 4 keymap, it could be synced > with the C-x 5 keymap for consistency. And indeed > dired-jump-other-frame is missing among existing keys: > > C-x 4 C-f find-file-other-window C-x 5 C-f find-file-other-frame > C-x 4 C-j dired-jump-other-window !!! Thank you for the analysis, I hadn't realised that C-x 5 C-j is literally the only one that's missing! -- Sean Whitton