bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads

bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads

[Yasuhiro Kimura]

Dear Emacs developers,

I'm a member of FreeBSD Emacs ports maintainance team. In FreeBSD
ports collections there are 2 Emacs ports, editors/emacs and
editors/emacs-devel. The former provides latest release of Emacs. The
latter tracks master branch of Emacs repository and is updated
regularly.

Recently we updated editors/emacs-devel from 3d6af11c42 to 11e6c12def
(both are commits in master branch of emacs repository) and after that
we faced the problem. There are some ports in ports collections that
depends on Emacs (ports of ELPA packages, for example). And some of
such ports fail to build now. I analyzed build errors and found
something in common.

* Build fails when editors/emacs-devel is used as Emacs.
* Build fails when 'update-directory-autoloads' function is used to
  build port.
* Build fails with following error message.
  "Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads"

At first I updated editors/emacs-devel to more recent commit of Emacs
repository (commit 4e23ecb882 at Sat Aug 13 02:36:54 2022 UTC) but the
error still happens. So I tried bisect between above 2
commit. According to the result of it the error happens following
commit and later.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
commit aa9eaac68e
Author:     Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
AuthorDate: Thu Aug 4 17:03:59 2022 +0200
Commit:     Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
CommitDate: Thu Aug 4 17:03:59 2022 +0200

    Move autoload.el to lisp/obsolete/
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Since update-directory-autoloads is defined in autoload.el, it seems
very likely for me that this commit causes the error.

By the way I have also been chasing emacs master branch with 64bit
Window 10 and MSYS2. So I built commit 11e6c12def with them and
checked if same error happens. But it doesn't.  So the problem may be
specific to FreeBSD or our editors/emacs-devel port.

If any other informatin is necessary, please feel free to requesting
it.

Best Regards.

---
Yasuhiro Kimura


In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, amd64-portbld-freebsd13.1)
Repository revision: 11e6c12
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bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads

[Arash Esbati]

Yasuhiro Kimura <yasu@FreeBSD.org> writes:

> Recently we updated editors/emacs-devel from 3d6af11c42 to 11e6c12def
> (both are commits in master branch of emacs repository) and after that
> we faced the problem. There are some ports in ports collections that
> depends on Emacs (ports of ELPA packages, for example). And some of
> such ports fail to build now. I analyzed build errors and found
> something in common.

I don't know about your build process and how your ports of ELPA
packages are built, but in case you have AUCTeX there and use it's make
file to build, it currently fails due to obsolescence of autoload.el. 

I have an idea how to fix it, but I need the issue described in
bug#57144 being resolved first.

> By the way I have also been chasing emacs master branch with 64bit
> Window 10 and MSYS2. So I built commit 11e6c12def with them and
> checked if same error happens. But it doesn't.  So the problem may be
> specific to FreeBSD or our editors/emacs-devel port.

Emacs itself builds fine for me on Win10.  I suspect the problem is in
the ports of ELPA packages you have.

Best, Arash

bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Cc: emacs@FreeBSD.org
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 14:19:33 +0900 (JST)
> From: Yasuhiro Kimura <yasu@FreeBSD.org>
> 
> Dear Emacs developers,
> 
> I'm a member of FreeBSD Emacs ports maintainance team. In FreeBSD
> ports collections there are 2 Emacs ports, editors/emacs and
> editors/emacs-devel. The former provides latest release of Emacs. The
> latter tracks master branch of Emacs repository and is updated
> regularly.
> 
> Recently we updated editors/emacs-devel from 3d6af11c42 to 11e6c12def
> (both are commits in master branch of emacs repository) and after that
> we faced the problem. There are some ports in ports collections that
> depends on Emacs (ports of ELPA packages, for example). And some of
> such ports fail to build now. I analyzed build errors and found
> something in common.
> 
> * Build fails when editors/emacs-devel is used as Emacs.
> * Build fails when 'update-directory-autoloads' function is used to
>   build port.
> * Build fails with following error message.
>   "Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads"
> 
> At first I updated editors/emacs-devel to more recent commit of Emacs
> repository (commit 4e23ecb882 at Sat Aug 13 02:36:54 2022 UTC) but the
> error still happens. So I tried bisect between above 2
> commit. According to the result of it the error happens following
> commit and later.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> commit aa9eaac68e
> Author:     Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> AuthorDate: Thu Aug 4 17:03:59 2022 +0200
> Commit:     Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> CommitDate: Thu Aug 4 17:03:59 2022 +0200
> 
>     Move autoload.el to lisp/obsolete/
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Since update-directory-autoloads is defined in autoload.el, it seems
> very likely for me that this commit causes the error.

From NEWS:

  ** The autoload.el library is now obsolete.
  It is superseded by the loaddefs-gen.el library.

So you are supposed to switch to using loaddefs-gen.el for Emacs 29.

bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads

[Yasuhiro Kimura]

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 15:58:22 +0300

> From NEWS:
> 
>   ** The autoload.el library is now obsolete.
>   It is superseded by the loaddefs-gen.el library.
> 
> So you are supposed to switch to using loaddefs-gen.el for Emacs 29.

OK, I should modify 3rd party application that use autoload.el so they
use loaddefs-gen.el instead. But please let me confirm one point.

When some .el file is moved to lisp/obsolete, is function defined
in it unavaiable any more?

cl.el was also moved to lisp/obsolete before. But I use some 3rd party
applications/libraries that use it and they still works (or seem to
work) well.

Is is just by chance?

---
Yasuhiro Kimura

bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 01:38:36 +0900 (JST)
> Cc: 57200@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs@FreeBSD.org
> From: Yasuhiro Kimura <yasu@FreeBSD.org>
> 
> When some .el file is moved to lisp/obsolete, is function defined
> in it unavaiable any more?

It is available, but will not be loaded automatically.  You need to
load it "by hand", if you want to use it.

bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads

[Yasuhiro Kimura]

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 19:52:04 +0300

>> When some .el file is moved to lisp/obsolete, is function defined
>> in it unavaiable any more?
> 
> It is available, but will not be loaded automatically.  You need to
> load it "by hand", if you want to use it.

Now that you mention it, applications that use cl.el load it by
calling "(require 'cl)".

I got it. Thanks for clarification.

---
Yasuhiro Kimura

bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Yasuhiro Kimura <yasu@FreeBSD.org> writes:

> * Build fails with following error message.
>   "Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads"

Sorry; unintended consequence of moving the file to obsolete/.  I don't
have time to look at this tonight, but I'll fix it one way or another
tomorrow, probably.

bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

>> * Build fails with following error message.
>>   "Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads"
>
> Sorry; unintended consequence of moving the file to obsolete/.  I don't
> have time to look at this tonight, but I'll fix it one way or another
> tomorrow, probably.

This should now be fixed on the trunk -- can you check whether your
scripts work for you again now?

bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads

[Yasuhiro Kimura]

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: Re: bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 07:30:53 +0200

>>> * Build fails with following error message.
>>>   "Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads"
>>
>> Sorry; unintended consequence of moving the file to obsolete/.  I don't
>> have time to look at this tonight, but I'll fix it one way or another
>> tomorrow, probably.
> 
> This should now be fixed on the trunk -- can you check whether your
> scripts work for you again now?

I tried commit 97da8eeb7c and confirmed build of the ports completes
successfully.
Thanks for quick fix.

---
Yasuhiro Kimura

bug#57200: 29.0.50; Symbol's function definition is void: update-directory-autoloads

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Yasuhiro Kimura <yasu@FreeBSD.org> writes:

> I tried commit 97da8eeb7c and confirmed build of the ports completes
> successfully.
> Thanks for quick fix.

Thanks for checking; I'm closing this bug report, then.