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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: corwin@bru.st, 58318@debbugs.gnu.org, bartosz.bubak@gmail.com,
	Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>
Subject: bug#58318: 28.2; Emacs installed from package won't work with MinGW
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 14:04:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sfjzvnyu.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83edvjondh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 07 Oct 2022 14:59:38 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> I'm sorry, I don't follow you.  If trampolines can't be installed, then
>> Emacs isn't fully functional, because you can't say
>> 
>> (fset 'yes-or-no-p 'y-or-n-p)
>> 
>> and have that be respected.  I.e., the non-functional bit is about
>> redefinitions of built-in functions, which is pretty basic functionality
>> in Emacs.
>
> Maybe there's a misunderstanding of what you meant by "if a compiler
> isn't present".  By "the compiler" do you mean libgccjit, or is it GCC
> and Binutils (or maybe all 3 together)?  IOW, are you talking about
> the ability to load existing *.eln files, or are you talking about the
> ability to both load existing *.eln files and produce new ones?

I'm talking about trampolines, nothing else.

> The startup code currently detects that libgccjit is unavailable or
> cannot be loaded, and if so, disables all the aspects of
> native-compilation: both JIT compilation of *.el and production of the
> trampolines.  I'm not aware that when we disable those two, we get
> Emacs that is not "fully functional".

If native compilation is disabled in a native-compiled Emacs, then 

(fset 'yes-or-no-p 'y-or-n-p)

doesn't work (for calls to `yes-or-no-p' in native-compiled code).
That's what I meant by "not fully functional".






  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-07 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-05 16:01 bug#58318: 28.2; Emacs installed from package won't work with MinGW Bartosz Bubak
2022-10-06  5:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-06 13:09   ` Corwin Brust
2022-10-06 13:30     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-06 14:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 11:42         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 11:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 12:04             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2022-10-07 12:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 12:28                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 12:35                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 12:43                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 12:54                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 13:02                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 13:44                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 13:47                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-07 13:04                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 13:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 13:54                         ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 14:03                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 14:35                             ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 15:27                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 15:34                                 ` Corwin Brust
2022-10-07 15:43                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 15:47                                     ` Corwin Brust
2022-10-07 19:11                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 17:15                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 19:15                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 15:49                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-07 15:52                               ` Corwin Brust
2022-10-07 19:14                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 12:56                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-08 13:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 13:10                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-08 14:28                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 13:28                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-11 19:23                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-11 19:29                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 20:45                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-12  5:21                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12  8:14                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-12 12:50                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 14:55                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-12 15:35                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-13 13:26                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-10-06 14:41     ` Eli Zaretskii

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