From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Setting value 1 when matching two strings Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 02:42:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87sfjncmbn.fsf@web.de> References: <25420.12274.577322.322044@tux.local> <87v8oje4v6.fsf@web.de> <8SgIL096UJ9Ve5a-wBAWJ0RVszIuVXsf4dUM6tqx3GgCSxFZSJhLC85xIpkh85fH_saOU7UI1gHGwuB52OfP1a3TJgZnbu0gqdeOIOszl5g=@protonmail.com> <87czare3t5.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24600"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:2ONhShUjV/efH5EMabZEOxjLKVI= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 17 02:43:58 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1okEEX-00068S-EV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 02:43:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56486 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okEEW-0001tR-CG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:43:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36230) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okEDb-0001rT-1a for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:43:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:41776) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okEDV-0002tS-AE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:42:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1okEDS-0004Zy-Sw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 02:42:50 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:140037 Archived-At: Heime writes: > Have gone through "An Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp" but cannot > assimilate all that. That's good. Nobody can assimilate that all at once. You can leave out lots of things that are currently not important to you. > If there was some condensed article about important tools for the > elisp programmer, and a crash course on how to use them, that would be > very helpful. Dunno if that's possible. Depends too much on the background of the reader. And there is a lot of important stuff to know. I doubt it fits in a condensed article, and I doubt even more that you would write good programs after reading that. It would be a trap. The manual is not that long because the authors were bad, it's full of important things. If you simplify, no matter where, you'll later regret it. Waste a lot of time, and still have to read all of it. > What I did was look at the emacs website displaying everything on one > web page. The Gnu Emacs Info Viewer, is that when you type "info" at > the shell command line? The command line program "info" is a reader for the Info documentation for the command line. Emacs has its own integrated and very nice Info reader: type C-h i. Oh, now I see that you only read the introduction, not the Elisp reference manual. I suggest to have a look at that one, too. Yeah sorry if we sometimes sound rude, but all shortcuts are traps, _all_ - sorry. It's hard to defer what one actually wants to do and read that boring stuff instead. I guess all of us tried some shortcuts. We all wasted lots of time more or less. Michael.