From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Elisp and CL (was: Re: [External] : Re: Testing whether a list contains at least one non-nil element)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 19:47:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sfj99n0x.fsf_-_@dataswamp.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CO6PR10MB547389397A19A2B17B14D179F3339@CO6PR10MB5473.namprd10.prod.outlook.com
Drew Adams wrote:
> And yes, the `cl-*' functions can be, and typically are,
> implemented in a performant way. [...]
>
> Emacs's `cl-*' emulation is not a real, performant CL
> implementation [...] But in some cases it could perhaps
> be improved.
Most definitely, and everything can always be improved.
We should stop thinking of Elisp as the configuration and
extension language of Emacs.
If we care about Lisp, which has been on the back foot for
decades to the point it's now defeated in all of Gaul. All of
it? No - there is still a small pocket of resistence. And it's
called Emacs!
We'll never, ever get a better storefront for Lisp than Emacs.
Elisp should be considered Lisp's last hope and we should do
everything we can to improve and modernize it every way we
can ...
So speaking of CL, why is that better? Because it is much
faster than Elisp, right?
But why can't Elisp be fast as well?
If anything can start anew
then everything must continue
--
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-27 17:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-25 10:16 Testing whether a list contains at least one non-nil element Heime
2022-10-25 10:46 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-25 10:47 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-25 10:50 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-25 12:12 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-26 18:56 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-27 3:54 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-27 4:53 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-27 5:30 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-27 15:54 ` Drew Adams
2022-10-27 17:47 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2022-10-27 20:38 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-28 0:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-28 4:48 ` tomas
2022-10-28 5:19 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-28 6:20 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-28 13:09 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-10-29 6:10 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-29 15:25 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-10-30 12:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-29 6:38 ` tomas
2022-10-30 12:48 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-29 9:20 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-29 9:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-27 4:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-25 12:05 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-25 12:15 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-25 15:59 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-25 17:44 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-26 15:39 ` Drew Adams
2022-10-26 17:43 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-25 17:25 ` Joost Kremers
2022-10-25 17:51 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-25 19:44 ` Heime
2022-10-25 20:08 ` Joost Kremers
2022-10-25 20:15 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-25 20:19 ` Joost Kremers
2022-10-26 3:00 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
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