From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Visuwesh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Questions regarding PGTK, high-dpi font-rendering, new X11-Warning Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2022 18:14:51 +0530 Message-ID: <87sfhz8f98.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87cz99l4td.fsf@thaodan.de> <87v8n1w7cf.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wn7gc53k.fsf@thaodan.de> <87r0xnx4fs.fsf@yahoo.com> <87edtncvss.fsf@thaodan.de> <87ilizwbkw.fsf@yahoo.com> <87cz94vjgl.fsf@yahoo.com> <87sfhzfmjs.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7292"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Stefan Monnier , Po Lu , xenodasein@tutanota.de, =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Manuel Giraud Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 01 16:03:47 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p0l6H-0001er-6K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2022 16:03:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0l4y-0008Up-AG; Thu, 01 Dec 2022 10:02:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0ivx-0004ZA-Hf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2022 07:44:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-x542.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::542]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0ivv-0002Lu-43 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2022 07:44:56 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-x542.google.com with SMTP id q1so1556689pgl.11 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2022 04:44:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=PZXspbH2ag0Le5SKjZykHI5D6NyB3+qFLxoQmivT5IY=; b=q6psB7CdJ82kPphAzrRsxlEPT+izTmv8jSXip+qt7H8gYGISBjJoC0PXBMvRSXJc50 IbHRvacs7YGMhtSFPCg1guB14jZ046hpxXO9dcVYsbMYtYdt8XnerbecGgprhyZFRoNn r5VCFHuM1H77p2q/i62REMeN4ehBYj3+b/OwD1XaOUxoqXb76SzICZPs9KVPXMk+VF0D CkYOpDSYZlxYzN9Is3h8FthvtK+vCCrxylLEgPZC0+onozCWHHExSjhClqlqn4oV2ekf qoP8JZAXRwbD6yagTKko4RkFJ5cgT9OWv+iW8jjmZEFmpo2cczTKLx0gkRuBAtfC9bOa pUQQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=PZXspbH2ag0Le5SKjZykHI5D6NyB3+qFLxoQmivT5IY=; b=B2qPNc4rOKYl37hXTDIPLQIVBaEnZa8JymhzX63wPGqiQnbX10HpYBawj952H58+Ng wmDk4lyS+32ZODW5MJRw0X5TIvFUU0wBrcZ/Jw/K5jwo3nKb9p6sP7QrcYRv3Bvz99XF eF1d2vU5GskMw849CMWt88VP9V2uSn20upA1qlw/IeCHHRN6bp8J0n1aAhaL9Lpb5Vjv cLp4UJyboPaI/Nm/osU49pJmC+9gPeG/VAwk27nPrtDedRzmEsJOpk+HQb3l9euIUkOE e6PaaZCF8QF1z217FjDfUPYJvD3eleY7Rk8zbRP6/eVrkJEzQ1Gug9Vp7idHwvFOq0cb 2gfg== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pnDnp2DZQpVLZWpMWQ5KrULU8zxHO6AlnavbPTrPN4aUoQ5T3ts +3vZevLV+EBk/Fglwg13FlQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf5c0qUhvLem29soFdZqV76kvri6CgrVLv40jcR2lAm6xRuva0UHxurfmAS8wb7uyEWfLjm5rw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:301b:b0:56e:1ce2:c919 with SMTP id ay27-20020a056a00301b00b0056e1ce2c919mr52170942pfb.78.1669898693518; Thu, 01 Dec 2022 04:44:53 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([49.205.87.237]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l18-20020a656812000000b0047681fa88d1sm2505703pgt.53.2022.12.01.04.44.52 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 01 Dec 2022 04:44:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87sfhzfmjs.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> (Manuel Giraud's message of "Thu, 01 Dec 2022 11:25:27 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::542; envelope-from=visuweshm@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x542.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 01 Dec 2022 10:02:13 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:300813 Archived-At: [=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BF=E0=AE=AF=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=B4=E0=AE=A9=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE=9F= =E0=AE=BF=E0=AE=9A=E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=AA=E0=AE=B0=E0=AF=8D 01, 2022] M= anuel Giraud wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: > > [...] > >> For my own use the most important part is the support of both "toolkit" >> and "no-toolkit" scrollbars, since I find the no-toolkit scrollbars more >> useful than the toolkit ones. > > I'm curious. What do you find useful in the no-toolkit scroolbars > compared to the toolkit ones? The fact that the direction of scrolling is dependent on the mouse button and not the position of the click is already a net positive. I never worry about the position of the pointer this way; if the pointer is on the text area, then I simply give it a gentle push using my touchpad.