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From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
To: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com>
Cc: 62117@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#62117: 29.0.60; cl-letf on a map place has side-effects
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 01:00:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sfeaj0tv.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875yb7vijp.fsf@gmail.com> (Augusto Stoffel's message of "Sat, 11 Mar 2023 08:44:26 +0100")

Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com> writes:

> Consider this example:
>
> (require 'cl-lib)
> (defun f (map)
>   (cl-letf (((map-elt map 'a) 1))
>      map))
>
> (let ((map '(b 2)))
>   (f map)
>   map)
> => (b 2 a nil)
>
> (let ((map (make-hash-table)))
>   (f map)
>   (map-length map))
> => 1
>
>
> I would expect `f' to have no side effects, so get (b 2) and 0
> respectively in the two examples.

This is a symptom of a general limitation of `cl-letf'.  Currently you can't
rely on a "no side effect" behavior.  There are other examples like that
(`alist-get') and cases that are worse (binding `buffer-local-value' of
a variable in a buffer with no buffer local binding doesn't remove the
buffer-localness - that's one reason why that gv had been deprecated).

> Of course it's usual to treat a nil entry and no entry as equivalent in
> Lisp, but this behavior can be a problem e.g. when constructing data to
> pass to other programs.

I would say: if it is a problem, map.el is the wrong abstraction for
your case.  That's the genuine idea of map.el: that the inner structure
of a map doesn't matter.

So I would close this one - unless you have some enlightening idea that
would be an obvious improvement with no downsides and backward
compatibility problems.


Thanks,

Michael.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-12  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-11  7:44 bug#62117: 29.0.60; cl-letf on a map place has side-effects Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-12  0:00 ` Michael Heerdegen [this message]
2023-03-12  6:09   ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-15  2:13     ` Michael Heerdegen

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