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envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:258331 Archived-At: Hello, I have some small suggestions to make (info "(emacs) Bugs") even more complete. The first I want to say is that, while we are telling a lot of (technical) details, we are missing a bit to tell what creating a bug report means practically, how it works in general. I mean simple things like these that are trivial for us but still not clear to everybody: Basically everything works by using Email. As the author of the bug report you'll be sent a CC copy of every message that belongs to that bug [it is important to let people know that e.g. a question of somebody is not necessarily addressed to the bug author]. You can reply normally to any of those messages. If you do so please be sure to keep the address that has been assigned to the bug (it looks like 12345@debbugs.gnu.org) in the list of recipients before sending your reply because else the bug tracker will not receive your message [lot's of people do this wrong!]. [...] parts are comments from me about the text, not part of the text. Then I wonder if we could say that it is helpful when the author loads relevant Elisp files before recording an Elisp backtrace [with a short explanation of what "relevant" means, and how that can be achieved]. Hmm - I think that's already it for now. You'll probably want to find a better wording. TIA, Michael. In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 27, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2023-03-20 built on drachen Repository revision: aa54a24570e526b5438264caacf405a2370ba9d3 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12011000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)