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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:304893 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 07:10:11 +0000 >> From: Gregory Heytings >> cc: rms@gnu.org, m.eliachevitch@posteo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> > As an aside, a technology I would like to see in Emacs is grammar >> > checking. Last I looked, there are no free grammar-checking libraries >> > or services out there, even just for the English language. But if >> > that's no longer true, then adding such capabilities to Emacs will be >> > very welcome, I think, since word-based spell-checking is clearly not >> > enough these days. >> >> I think that's no longer true, LanguageTool is available (and has been for >> ~20 years): https://github.com/languagetool-org/languagetool . But it's >> written in Java... > > Thanks. Maybe someone will figure out how to integrate this with > Emacs. There is an implementation[0], but I found it to be awkward to work with. Looking around, I found a second implementation[1], but I cannot comment on how well it works. One of the main annoyances is that LanguageTool does not appear to be widely packaged[2]. [0] https://github.com/mhayashi1120/Emacs-langtool/ [1] https://github.com/PillFall/languagetool.el [2] https://repology.org/project/languagetool/versions -- Philip Kaludercic