From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Resources for an old newbie ? Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2023 22:34:51 +0200 Message-ID: <87sfb57ims.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <0e037ca2-517d-3b52-2187-a7bba7956fbd@starynkevitch.net> <87353ndhzg.fsf@web.de> <871qj7397n.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87ilch19ub.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87cz2nvk51.fsf@web.de> <87v8gfybhv.fsf@robbyzambito.me> <87zg5p5hm0.fsf@web.de> <875y8a698v.fsf@web.de> <875y89z9m7.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83fs777q9m.fsf@gnu.org> <835y837k5h.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8g37bgx.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9580"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:LqZFAjuoYy2OK+MQAK0ty14h6YQ= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 10 20:39:39 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q83Uw-0002Kg-BU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:39:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q83UV-0002qt-UP; Sat, 10 Jun 2023 14:39:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q6Gv1-0003x7-6F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 16:35:11 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q6Guy-0005Qv-P9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 16:35:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q6Guw-0007xL-JC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 22:35:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 14:39:10 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:143907 Archived-At: David Masterson wrote: > Installing the dependencies via the standard system package > manager gives you the (illusionary?) feeling that the > dependencies are okay with everything else on the system. > Using something like flatpak gives you the feeling that the > dependencies are in a safe sandbox and won't effect the > system, but potentially increases disk space usage (a strong > consideration on a smallish Chromebook). Building yourself > is time consuming (especially on a Chromebook! [CBs go to > sleep when you walk away!]) and increases diisk space usage. The disk space required seems to be 1.5G. It compiles pretty quickly on my 3600 Mhz quad-core. I don't know if that is a fast or slow computer, it seems fast to me but at the same time I would be surprised if I have the faster computer out there. One thing I know tho, Emacs, with native compilation, is certainly fast enough for me! As for the package aspect which you seem to return to over and over, I must admit I have not thought of that in connection to the compile-manually-or-not issue, so I leave that without comments ;) -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal