From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>,
"brandon.irizarry@gmail.com" <brandon.irizarry@gmail.com>,
"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>,
"65344@debbugs.gnu.org" <65344@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#65344: 28.2; Unable to Edebug cl-flet form which uses argument destructuring
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 02:16:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sf868xq5.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR10MB5488FF3910A78B4EA4B89C34F3E3A@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 25 Aug 2023 14:50:57 +0000")
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> OK, so you don't see a problem. Do you see
> a reason why we would add some `cl-foobar' to
> `cl-lib.el', if it's a function that has no
> relation to Common Lisp? Does it make any
> sense to you that someone might expect it to
> be housed elsewhere, with a different prefix
> (or with no prefix)?
>
> That's all I'm trying to say here. Let's avoid
> stuffing non-CL stuff in `cl*.el' files. Is it
> necessary to clean house wholesale, moving and
> renaming things to fix this mixup? No. I'm
> not proposing disruption or extra work - just a
> recognition of a will to avoid adding not CL
> stuff to `cl*.el' files and giving it prefix
> `cl-'. Nothing revolutionary or heavy-handed
> intended.
Sorry about mentioning flet again, but it's a good example to discuss.
Would you want that we have cl-flet, which is an restricted version
of the current implementation, and cl-flet*, which is like the current
cl-flet? Or two constructs with non-overlapping semantics? Or was
extending cl-flet as had been done ok for you?
Your suggestion sounds logical and objective, but what has "a relation to
CL" or is "not CL" is a bit subjective, it is an individual decision
where to draw the line. I mean, anyone could agree with your claim but
some may still come to other decision than you would expect.
Michael.
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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-16 18:21 bug#65344: 28.2; Unable to Edebug cl-flet form which uses argument destructuring Brandon Irizarry
2023-08-17 0:55 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-17 5:29 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-17 15:42 ` Brandon Irizarry
2023-08-17 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-17 18:23 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-17 23:07 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-18 5:19 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-18 5:58 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-18 6:43 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-19 8:08 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-20 3:57 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-20 5:32 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-20 6:08 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-20 6:48 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-21 1:19 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-21 7:01 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-21 7:10 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-21 7:30 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-22 0:54 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-22 5:48 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-22 6:10 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-22 8:05 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-22 21:06 ` Brandon Irizarry
2023-08-23 0:35 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-23 0:32 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-23 1:25 ` Drew Adams
2023-08-23 6:06 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-23 14:23 ` Drew Adams
2023-08-24 3:16 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-24 9:10 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-24 23:04 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-25 1:53 ` Drew Adams
2023-08-25 4:07 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-25 14:50 ` Drew Adams
2023-08-26 0:16 ` Michael Heerdegen [this message]
2023-08-26 2:02 ` Drew Adams
2023-08-20 4:39 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-20 5:15 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-23 9:25 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-23 9:31 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-23 11:10 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-23 14:08 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-24 1:14 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-24 6:17 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-25 4:10 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-25 6:19 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-25 4:22 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-25 6:33 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-25 17:53 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-26 5:39 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-27 4:02 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-27 6:34 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-01 23:24 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-02 5:10 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-02 17:04 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-02 19:27 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-03 5:51 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-03 16:09 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-03 16:47 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-09-04 21:14 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-23 9:33 ` Gerd Möllmann
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