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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 8a1f3234b5bd724cdae31e75a01dc8be; Sat, 13 Jan 2024 00:46:33 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83sf32iqs5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 12 Jan 2024 16:12:58 +0200") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22010 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:278074 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying here. Could you please > say it in simpler words? What are "icon fonts"? and what do you mean > by "it can be removed"? Fonts designed to provide symbol icons, which are inserted by packages that can control the `face' property of the text inserted. Such fonts don't provide bold variants, and they did prompt this bug report. > If we add such a variable, it will be opt-in behavior, so only users > who want it will get the behavior that you consider deficient. It > will be then up to those users to decide whether the behavior is good > enough for them. So I see no problem with such an option; we don't > have to like each and every optional behavior that is by default > turned off. What if a user wants to disable the `bold' attribute for a font _with_ a bold variant?