From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Small correction to commit ae2463796f236b8ee2cef3b5e38bffa13abd2233 Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2024 17:11:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87seufqws2.fsf@gmx.net> References: <86jzfr61xr.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfonr0a6.fsf@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4801"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 04 17:17:14 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1slrkv-00014O-KF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2024 17:17:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1slrkX-0008KD-R1; Wed, 04 Sep 2024 11:16:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1slrkW-0008Jy-EF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2024 11:16:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1slrkU-00026t-HF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2024 11:16:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.net; s=s31663417; t=1725463000; x=1726067800; i=stephen.berman@gmx.net; bh=Sa3MtYBPNy39awK7l0+ge9wikf00JH2dJiKwb+9flZs=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:cc: content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id: mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=jzR9FsPVyNKsLwPko14dq2DTdIWX0rSsp+kn/mr5KqkWb3a7jHB6XgmCl+tkFbbU 1AHOn7PvLqJ0lVhOD6K4WGfh+xzmUojd58OY8GdTb/t+gHHs39IX7V7Da2Kg5hYwc bqtvGEphnTHAXMzhVXJkNrQyc/OngPoQzU9qZMo7lHVFI+jTfxPppsTep5au70pW5 zkHVa1ZFWs24U3P7N+KrIwmzBPPA8JLHaW+DiBZ1Ehp5ZXfPK65qU6YMhUC+I2xBe YPpcsBm4ha4jcMDEhA/4Zp+R6fHld3YQRDONDLcG1jMaFJTTTygB0cI+jC5rCm9i0 xcqiPWCI8qcZ1hPb3g== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Original-Received: from strobelfs ([88.130.49.195]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MWigq-1sWKxS0cOG-00Nb1G; Wed, 04 Sep 2024 17:11:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87zfonr0a6.fsf@gmx.net> (Stephen Berman's message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2024 15:55:29 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Vv4+UA/sD8CkZiE4jbimZ0AAycXmlnbD8lJpTmdrdbfavaqlwOw bV5eRbIE5eWfITRzZZiBYRZbKMMIXIKi9V1/G86eJGfq5RVppGby4RPsPTc9svuieIkl8Tf YBpVNAfgNqJek5rIhQ1FKoyJkiwsYbl48pNUvNwtxHA+CJO3VIGGr7uoeFtRsT66/ysVzCf pQZcAOkvpmIrFHLQSE6VQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:O0TJNGQ1vfw=;Y6X8sEETNMYo1wTxjqhva6d+Eeh /jJDVd2MMqIBZfcn9SWJ9SQkJ2SMpldkNwzphwzeWJadUUubnoWWtFv2/aNXlVlqw44JCPPUu O+90Zd66j2FiWc6a2NSUOChha4s+De6xf0O6UZvqq1g98LvdZTugGC60/QD62Ufnwm3IQkLaV tuOEWDFXrwL9qkN9u00aqaphhRZL013yyUHYbLs9dzxBIvSD3VYnMVQ6EukfK5qG4JqdVUa7a x4hQUztl40d5wcD9DmthEyPaamLg+aoecGiThK1zAXQQ6OYNRyEeE5w0D5BG7FUtWcfpY+GIq 9i8KOPdXNbgRpdCcEClgZLDS7tZ97qxxxLjRmG0N+NDf8kfg3e5RvX1+CJ8r47i7PyoN3yYW5 21r9U9iwHobF2U1gkmvUnjZyEomqEPLulfuvrT/IYa7/t3rpzxUFqia9SJU9dhlqgRQQT7h0z wQyVhNGfMYDZSwKTcKhQHwUQaCTTx39EI29yBOkbkbnN6KYT6FnrTxU9gGDvF41mgu4kqNaro WEKpPZERPG8x/QLV0+GYrAJY5szYQYM/r05XYlfTp0bHzLtFRq8BDVt2YIbbvOXuRTC9640U/ E5bfXhyGWmOk5vinLpEhUDaCKczto/IMSF9sfJhm8G0MXJ28v/4jie+SdI8hg42ZZAiA3rBQb YxDcN4hAMyTcBEMyAJR49B8ynxeJu4NpN6XqAeFvD9OCGgRiZ5VXHOymrrEUN9vbvkLkYNrgB 3U1DdXO6o6zlY+NzisB9GYL3hv6Ptm6OiJr3w5pbHh3QvJCdAKM+S/1k2Lxn+YSgUxXuU9JB Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.22; envelope-from=stephen.berman@gmx.net; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323368 Archived-At: On Wed, 04 Sep 2024 15:55:29 +0200 Stephen Berman = wrote: > On Wed, 04 Sep 2024 15:25:20 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >>> From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez >>> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 09:02:18 +0200 >>> >>> >evaluation cannot load any files, nor calls functions like >>> >@code{posn-at-point} or @code{window-in-direction}, which themselves >>> >+evaluate the mode line, as doing so could cause infinite recursion. >>> >>> Shouldn't that be 'cannot load any files nor call functions'? >> >> No, because "calls" refers to 'evaluation", which is singular, not >> plural. > > The clause beginning with "nor" is a complement of "can", so the verb > must be a bare infinitive, i.e. "call" and not "to call", but also not > "calls", since that's not an infinitive form. If you find "nor call > functions" hard to parse, the more explicit "nor can it call functions" > is an alternative. After seeing your new rewording, I see that my "more explicit" alternative phrasing is not good in the full sentence, which I didn't see when I responded (a correct alternative is "nor that it can call...", which sound somewhat stilted, or simply (and better) "and cannot call..."). (Your new rewording is fine, though I think "neither loads any files nor calls functions like..." might be understood to imply nothing else is excluded from evaluation, while with "does not load any files or call functions like..." that implication seems weaker.) Steve Berman