From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: License Notice for ELPA packages Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 06:15:47 +0200 Message-ID: <87setv0xl8.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <86jzfnyevy.fsf@gnu.org> <874j6rzqo0.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26480"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:RhHy/MSzkML14v6MC7zeSV9SvgM= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 20 07:36:23 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1srWJb-0006hK-9P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 07:36:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srWJO-0006oD-U1; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 01:36:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srV3r-00087A-B4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 00:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srV3l-0005PZ-OV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 00:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1srV3i-0004PX-Vv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 06:15:55 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 01:36:09 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323803 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: >> As ELPA packages are regarded to be part of Emacs (and >> distributed under the same license), the comment should say >> "is part of GNU Emacs". > > I don't think it's that clear. It is considered as part of > GNU Emacs in the sense that copyright assignments that cover > Emacs also cover these files, but it is not considered as > part of the GNU Emacs in the sense that it's not (currently) > included in the distributed tarball. I always read it as "part of GNU Emacs, for practical reasons distributed with GNU ELPA." Does it mean something else, or something else as well? I think a lot of stuff in Emacs core should, also for practical reasons, be converted into GNU ELPA packages. Especially big ones that aren't used by everyone, necessarily. Gnus is the obvious example, then one would continue down the ladder. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal