From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sean Whitton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: NonGNU ELPA: taking over/forking ws-butler Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 08:51:00 +0800 Message-ID: <87serq7kej.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> References: <877ca776t5.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <87ttdb5s7w.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30097"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Le Wang To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 17 01:52:17 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tCTWS-0007hR-TN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:52:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tCTVY-0003di-Hy; Sat, 16 Nov 2024 19:51:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tCTVQ-0003dO-Do for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2024 19:51:13 -0500 Original-Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tCTVN-0006Tn-QY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2024 19:51:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=Cvv2pVaiECB0wT2g7YfUNNDwBQMOoIyvhYNN4LrdN3ihhzzMgQpEbouEtFXS/ETMqKKlHUVRzi4zvYLfRh5ouegqgyUxEadTKKJJHwKCvVq3ug3ukKVmetVjQzxEwS5nrAs/e0x2XLIzoUXqbq7iaFKdG2Un8Cfz6HSoQ5H2gO+WO4GCkGzeIBol8m6iIoxC5+ICpia26mZVjt1qL0YzTKg8MDgBrUOsbQTOmWc1ytvBOhxroWvqDcwJZ5/r1KkJgtmrkpMENKiGx9LsP5SQCmXGORtVPEqkZ2iGt9U1ychtYNbLeFfGmpsJPrF8aZ8xvJTkG+56GeYvrdaYh2o1IA==; s=purelymail2; d=spwhitton.name; v=1; bh=/lCxpyoW6aVvYC5sUjXfffcMNX2IpeZallIOfUFu9xA=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=C2lbASLQ/k18t/R5lJtyYxd2pRWQNHeDsT99kVKSmnk0zbpHlHEJbozbjju2QNhBjwb2W4X89X28iG04CT7P4r6mODdM2oh4HJDzPbkqps4wDk4h7zIO2YwhekDgDhZLvWSNFi48perP8rIelIGEaGUbdEXJJXjYhxe13ur3YqzbSWjeQ2OfqdgZG7romVuqwyIJAohtLwm/xEWAyAIaUb2HORtRbBmdGS9LlpTSyYe2vKJ1Q9TeqKYUdRdQmcsBJOj2yAcBWgkCQyKQ9Z/I/m8XiN3RcGFBDHjt6CdIvplOvgD0meXC/5ZsPg0lZnTpX+LKeyDg9DZZJSUfe7TyXA==; s=purelymail2; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=/lCxpyoW6aVvYC5sUjXfffcMNX2IpeZallIOfUFu9xA=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; Feedback-ID: 20115:3760:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: by smtp.purelymail.com (Purelymail SMTP) with ESMTPSA id 798715959; (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: by melete.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 72EB47E42C6; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 08:51:00 +0800 (CST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 17 Oct 2024 14:17:56 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=34.202.193.197; envelope-from=spwhitton@spwhitton.name; helo=sendmail.purelymail.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325482 Archived-At: Hello again, On Thu 17 Oct 2024 at 02:17pm -04, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I wrote the following e-mail to Le Wang a fortnight ago and have >> received no response. And he has not been active on github, where >> ws-butler was developed, in some years. > > Sadly, nowadays many people don't read their email or don't reply. > [ IME, more and more people use their email account only as a kind of > authenticator for 2FA or password recovery. =F0=9F=99=81 ] > [ Also, sometimes they just change their email address. ] > > I'd recommend you open a (very short and focused) issue on the upstream > Github about this, asking for help contacting him, in case he does read > that, or in case someone else reads that who knows another way to > reach him. > > BTW, https://github.com/lewang suggests he contributed to something(?) > over there recently (on Sept 25). > >>> Stefan, do you think it would be okay if I go ahead and essentially >>> fork it by maintaining it out of nongnu-elpa.git? > > Changing the upstream (to `nongnu.git` or anywhere else) due to a new > maintainership is fine, yes. > > But of course doing it without the former maintainer's consent is not ide= al. > I think it deserves waiting a bit more than a fortnight. An update here. Posting a GitHub issue worked, in that I got a brief reply, but haven't heard back properly. So I guess I wait another month since that last reply and take it over. --=20 Sean Whitton