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From: Alexander Pohoyda <alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [rmail-mbox-branch]: mail-utils
Date: 09 Oct 2004 01:17:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r7o8yf4g.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1CFxFo-0000Ym-Ue@fencepost.gnu.org>

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     For example, the original implementation of `mail-[un]quote-printable'
>     functions is too limited.  I suppose that this is desired: 
> 
>     (defun mail-quote-printable (string &optional wrapper)
>      "Encode the STRING in such a way that the resulting octets are unlikely to
>     be modified by mail transport.  Defined by RFC 2045.
>     If the optional argument WRAPPER is non-nil, decorate the resulting string
>     with =?charset?Q?....?=, as defined by RFC 2047."
>      (if wrapper
> 	 (rfc2047-encode-string string)
>        (rfc2045-quoted-printable-encode-string string)))
> 
> I do not know whether that is desired; I don't understand it.

I'll try to explain.

RFC 2045, among other things, defines quoted-printable encoding.

   The Quoted-Printable encoding is intended to represent data that
   largely consists of octets that correspond to printable characters in
   the US-ASCII character set.

RFC 2045 describes a mechanism for denoting textual body parts which
are coded in various character sets, as well as methods for encoding
such body parts as sequences of printable US-ASCII characters.

RFC 2047 defines similar techniques to allow the encoding of non-ASCII
text in various portions of a RFC 822 [2] message header, in a manner
which is unlikely to confuse existing message handling software.

Both techniques are used very often if you live outside of the US.


> It looks like you are talking about functions in Gnus;

These functions are currently implemented in Gnus, but they are
general MIME functions and are needed by Rmail or any other
MIME-related software.


>     Now, there are many other functions and constants which are
>     defined by some RFCs and I have implemented them in such a way:
> 
>     mime/
>       rfc2045.el (13 functions)
>       rfc2047.el (11 functions)
>       rfc2231.el (7 functions)
>       (some other less important files)
> 
> I do not understand what "such a way" means.  What way do you mean?

I propose to create a directory called "mime" in
"$EMACSROOT/lisp/mail" and put all MIME-related functionality in
there.

I further propose to group functions defined by RFCs (Request
For Comment) into corresponding files.  I have partly implemented
RFCs 2045, 2047 and 2231, but other will follow.

I ask you because I recall that you are opposed to creating new files
in the source tree.


> Are you saying you have written files with the same names as certain
> files in Gnus?

Exactly!  Once again, I propose that we move general-purpose MIME
functions out of lisp/gnus into lisp/mail/mime directory.

Are you OK with this?


> If that's what you mean, the simplest way to avoid conflict
> is to rename these functions, then add them to mail-utils.el
> or put them together in some other new file.  Why not?

Yes, we can put all MIME-related functions into mail-utils.el, but it
would be better to put them into a separate file (mime.el) or even a
separate directory (mime) with separate files implementing specific
RFCs, e.g. the file lisp/mail/mime/rfc2045.el contains functions
defined by RFC 2045.

Please choose and I will send a patch.


-- 
Alexander Pohoyda <alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net>
PGP Key fingerprint: 7F C9 CC 5A 75 CD 89 72  15 54 5F 62 20 23 C6 44

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-08 23:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-24  6:09 [rmail-mbox-branch]: expunge Alfred M. Szmidt
2004-09-24  7:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-24  8:21   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2004-09-24  9:23     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-24 12:03       ` Paul Michael Reilly
2004-09-25  7:08       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-03 10:40         ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-04 15:18           ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-06 21:38             ` [rmail-mbox-branch]: mail-utils Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-06 21:47               ` Miles Bader
2004-10-08 23:34                 ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-08 23:47                   ` Miles Bader
2004-10-09 16:04                     ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-09 17:12                       ` Stefan
2004-10-09 18:15                         ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-09 18:20                           ` Miles Bader
2004-10-09 21:02                             ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-09 21:10                               ` Miles Bader
2004-10-09 21:19                                 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-10 15:15                                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-10 22:58                                     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-11 16:45                                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-12  2:09                                         ` Miles Bader
2004-10-12 14:42                                         ` Juri Linkov
2004-10-12 15:03                                           ` Miles Bader
2004-10-12 16:05                                             ` Syncing Gnus with Emacs and back (was: [rmail-mbox-branch]: mail-utils) Reiner Steib
2004-10-13  1:26                                               ` Syncing Gnus with Emacs and back Miles Bader
2004-10-13 20:21                                                 ` Reiner Steib
2004-10-13 22:51                                                   ` Miles Bader
2004-10-14  7:47                                                     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-13 14:43                                           ` [rmail-mbox-branch]: mail-utils Richard Stallman
2004-10-09 19:02                           ` Stefan
2004-10-09 20:40                             ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-11 10:36                       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-08 16:06               ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-08 23:17                 ` Alexander Pohoyda [this message]
2004-10-10 15:16                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-10 23:50                     ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-11 16:45                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-11 19:01                         ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-12  8:57                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-12 16:12                             ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-13 14:42                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-13 18:16 ` how-many/count-matches for non-interactive use Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-15  0:26   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-15  6:28     ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-15 12:22       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-15 15:30         ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-16 13:52           ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-16 21:49             ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-15 12:54     ` Stefan
2004-10-16 13:51       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-16 18:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-16 22:00           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-17 15:19             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-17 20:53               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-17 21:44                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-18  8:39                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-18 13:59                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-19  1:58                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-19  2:08                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-19 10:29                     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-19 17:17                       ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-20 12:01                         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-19 16:46                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-19 22:08                       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-21  1:45                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21  3:22                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-20  1:14                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-20  1:35                         ` David Kastrup
2004-10-20 13:28                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-10-20  1:27                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-21  1:45                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21  3:08                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-22 10:47                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-22 12:54                               ` Convert keyboard macros to Lisp (was: how-many/count-matches for non-interactive use) Juri Linkov
2004-10-23 13:54                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-22 17:35                               ` how-many/count-matches for non-interactive use Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-22 22:22                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-23  1:53                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-23 11:32                                 ` John Paul Wallington
2004-10-23 18:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 20:36                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-24 17:09                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-26  3:09                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-26  8:19                                         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-11-02  8:53                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24  2:31                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-24 17:09                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25  1:53                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-26  9:05                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25  2:53                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-26  9:04                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25  3:08                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-24 17:09                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 18:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 14:04                                   ` Ken Manheimer
2004-10-27 10:49                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-28  4:39                                     ` Ken Manheimer
2004-11-02 15:48                                       ` Ken Manheimer
2004-11-07  3:37                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 18:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 19:53                                   ` John Paul Wallington
2004-10-23 18:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21 22:13                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-23  4:48                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 16:03                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-18  8:32               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-17 16:07           ` Richard Stallman

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