From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Eliminating "changed in Emacs outside of Customize" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:42:57 -0500 Message-ID: <87r7jxn1z8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107442139 27980 80.91.229.6 (3 Feb 2005 14:48:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Per Abrahamsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 03 15:48:51 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CwiHr-0001VN-00 for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 15:48:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwiV8-0007kZ-VI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:02:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CwiU5-0007Dv-DL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:01:29 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CwiU0-0007Ao-Ek for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:01:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwiTz-00077t-QC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:01:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [209.226.175.4] (helo=tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CwiCC-0007k1-IF; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:43:00 -0500 Original-Received: from alfajor ([67.71.119.41]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id <20050203144258.EJQG1836.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@alfajor>; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:42:58 -0500 Original-Received: by alfajor (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7D79DD72EC; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:42:57 -0500 (EST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:41:04 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32809 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32809 > It does not seem to justify the statement above. The statement is not > limited to init files. It seems to say that *any* setting of the > variable from outside Custom would cause trouble. But this only > explains why setting the variable *in .emacs* would cause trouble. > If we arranged to record a list of all defcustomed variables that are > explicitly set in other ways from within .emacs, would that make it > possible to solve this problem? If we arranged to record such a list, the only source of problem left would be wrong external packages, which might be a more acceptable risk. I have no idea how to arrange to record such a list, tho. Stefan