From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: pj@heslin.eclipse.co.uk, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
claus.klingberg@gmail.com, lennart.borgman@gmail.com,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Fly-spelling with multiple dictionaries
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 04:26:38 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r6dk14sx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47F69AC3.1010605@gmx.at>
martin rudalics writes:
> > > I use both Ispell and Aspell for some years. Nevertheless,
> > > it's a sad story of wasted resources. Ispell, Pspell,
> > > Aspell, Myspell, Hunspell is like Emacs, XEmacs,
>
> Why did you remove the - admittedly poor - pun from my original
> posting? The last sentence read as
>
> Ispell, Pspell, Aspell, Myspell, Hunspell is
> like Emacs, XEmacs, YEmacs, ZEmacs, ...
>
> and YEmacs, ZEmacs, ... do not exist.
Because they don't exist, but SXEmacs and Aquamacs (to mention two
among several) do, and I assume the assorted *spells all do. I was
unsure of your intent, so I removed the parts that could cause
confusion (at least to me).
> > I can't speak to the *spell issue, but there was (and is) no
> > alternative to maintaining a fork of Emacs that satisfies the
> > technical goals of the XEmacs developers and the Lucid developers
> > before them, because some of those technical goals (such as modularity
> > in code and in distribution) are unacceptable to GNU. It's not wasted
> > resources, therefore, although the burden imposed on third party
> > developers is unfortunate.
>
> You're talking to one of the persons who are convinced that Emacs and
> XEmacs should (and do) profit from each other.
I'm also one, and therefore object to calling parallel development in
*friendly* competition a waste. I am sad that the GNU legal
requirements present a barrier to flow of code and to some extent
ideas from XEmacs to Emacs, but again that is a necessary outcome of
the difference in goals. (The same kind of thing is a feature of GPL
vs. BSD competition, of course.)
> Agreed - if we were talking about Ispell and Aspell. Unfortunately,
> development of these packages merely stalled and the newer ones like
> Hunspell are hardly useful for Emacs (and XEmacs).
Well, I don't know about that. Again, the parallel to Emacsen fails.
While we long-time users have our strong preferences, for practical
purposes basic editing tasks are done the same in all the Emacsen.
(Eg, the tutorials are 95% valid across all Emacsen.)
In any case, we should think about what to do about this. Adapt
Emacsen? Adapt the new spell-checkers? Ignore them?
Regards,
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-05 19:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-03 9:47 Fly-spelling with multiple dictionaries Angelo Graziosi
2008-04-03 12:28 ` martin rudalics
2008-04-03 15:32 ` Claus
2008-04-03 15:54 ` martin rudalics
2008-04-03 16:21 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-03 17:23 ` martin rudalics
2008-04-03 17:48 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-03 20:59 ` martin rudalics
2008-04-03 21:13 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-03 21:43 ` martin rudalics
2008-04-03 22:00 ` David Reitter
2008-04-04 6:55 ` martin rudalics
2008-04-04 7:07 ` David Reitter
2008-04-04 9:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-05 7:34 ` David Reitter
2008-04-05 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-05 11:06 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-05 11:18 ` David Reitter
2008-04-05 22:28 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-04 9:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-04 12:19 ` martin rudalics
2008-04-04 19:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-04 21:16 ` martin rudalics
2008-04-05 11:33 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-04-05 12:13 ` martin rudalics
2008-04-05 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-05 16:34 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-04-05 17:02 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-05 18:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-05 21:17 ` martin rudalics
2008-04-06 14:41 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-04-06 16:47 ` hunspell support (was: Fly-spelling with multiple dictionaries) Sascha Wilde
2008-04-07 12:35 ` Agustin Martin Domingo
2008-04-08 9:12 ` hunspell support Sascha Wilde
2008-04-06 19:09 ` Fly-spelling with multiple dictionaries Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-06 20:03 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-04-07 12:17 ` Agustin Martin Domingo
2008-04-07 12:50 ` hunspell support (Was Fly-spelling with multiple dictionaries) Agustin Martin Domingo
2008-04-08 9:16 ` hunspell support Sascha Wilde
2008-04-05 19:26 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2008-04-05 22:15 ` Fly-spelling with multiple dictionaries martin rudalics
2008-04-03 13:13 ` Dan Nicolaescu
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