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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, tzz@lifelogs.com,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: multiple input methods (was: adding consistent extra symbols to input methods)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:30:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r69euoee.fsf_-_@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1KIZHa-000522-RS@etlken.m17n.org> (Kenichi Handa's message of "Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:24:46 +0900")

>> > My original patch intends that "preposition" input methods
>> > are what handled before the normal input method (as
>> > documented).
>
>> I'm not sure if "preposition" is the right English word here.
>
> Me neither.  Anyway, it is an input method handled before
> the normal input method.

So it has the same meaning as e.g. the command `pre-command-hook'
that runs a hook before each command?  But I doubt that the word
"pre" in its name stands for "preposition".  Maybe we could do the
same and name new methods using the same short word "pre"? E.g.

    activate-pre-input-method
    inactivate-pre-input-method

>>>> global-input-method-list -> remove this variable since there is
>>>> no global variant of `current-input-method'.
>> >
>> > ??? A preposition input method can be activated globally
>> > when recorded in global-input-method-list.  In that case, in
>> > any buffer, when you activate a normal input method, that
>> > preposition input method is also activated automatically.
>> > Isn't it useful?
>
>> This is useful, but I think it should work exactly like a single input
>> method works now, i.e. since a global single input method is defined by the
>> variable `default-input-method', so an additional/preposition/subsidiary
>> input method should be defined by a similar global variable like e.g.
>> `default-input-methods' (note the plural `s' at the end of the name) or
>> `default-input-method-list'.
>
> Ah, I see your point.  But, I think that the preposition
> input methods is a little bit different from the normal
> single input method because even if we activate the
> different single input method, the same preposition input
> methods are activated.  Though, I'm not sure that this
> behaviour is the best.  It looks convenient for those people
> who switches multiple input methods but wants a consistent
> key binding for inputting specific characters.  But, perhaps
> most users don't switches multiple input methods.

I think we should provide UI that activates the normal single input
method and all pre input methods at the same time. So a sequence
`C-\ IM1,IM2,IM3 RET' will set the normal single input method
to IM1, and set pre input methods to a list '(IM2 IM3).

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/




  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-28 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-13 14:27 composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-* Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-13 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-13 15:56 ` Jason Rumney
2008-06-13 18:09   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-14  9:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-14 18:55       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-06-14 19:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-18 20:17           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-19 11:45             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-02 20:25               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-03  2:29                 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-03 19:53                   ` adding consistent extra symbols to input methods (cyrillic-*, croatian-*, slov*, czech-* etc.) input methods Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-05 12:54                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-06 18:40                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-06 22:54                         ` Miles Bader
2008-07-10  0:09                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10  0:37                             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-10  0:52                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10  1:44                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-10  1:15                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-10  0:27                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10  1:16                             ` Miles Bader
2008-07-10 18:43                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-11  2:52                                 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-07  1:57                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-07  4:39                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-07  5:25                             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-07 19:42                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-07 22:05                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-13  5:11                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-13  5:17                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-13 21:27                                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-14  3:18                                       ` Miles Bader
2008-07-14  4:43                                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-14 21:51                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-15  1:24                                             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-28 13:30                                               ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2008-07-06 18:41     ` composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-* Juri Linkov
2008-07-07 20:12       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-07 21:42         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-08  0:48           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-08 10:46           ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-07-08 21:47             ` David Kastrup
2008-07-08 15:37           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-08 17:38             ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 22:54             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 16:02               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 18:02                 ` James Cloos
2008-07-09 18:49                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 19:51                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 18:48                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 19:33                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 22:14                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 23:52                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 12:47                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 18:45                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 19:10                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 19:52                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 20:40                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 22:01                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-12 20:51                                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-14 14:01                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-14 21:47                                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-15 15:06                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-15 20:32                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-08-01 21:07                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-05 21:00                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-05 22:05                                               ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-10 22:09                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-10 22:54                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-11  1:26                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-11  2:08                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-09 19:21                 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-08 15:49           ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 18:50             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-08 19:50               ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 20:26                 ` composed characters question and suggestions for?quail-cyrillic-* Teemu Likonen

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