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From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: C-x C-b and C-x C-f bugging about confirmation
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:29:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r654yj1f.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvvduhm0cl.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:03:52 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> In my experience typos are a lot more common than opening a
> nonexistent file.

It's a matter of usage patterns.  For myself, this change will probably
be triggered hundreds or thousands of times for each mistake caught.

> (most commonly after a TAB completion which completed less than
> expected)

Hitting TAB after completion gives the message "[Sole completion]",
which tells you that you have what you want.

> My take on it is that if the feature had been the default from the
> beginning, nobody would even contemplate adding a
> `confirm-nonexistent-file-or-buffer' option just to save themselves
> typing RET one extra time when creating a new file.

But it has not been the default from the beginning, and it deviates from
established rules about how the minibuffer behaves.  One expects RET,
unlike TAB, to submit the minibuffer input.  (The only time RET doesn't
do that is in an "error situation"---a minibuffer is expects an exact
match and you haven't supplied that.)  Hence this double-RET behavior,
with its cryptic "[Confirm]" prompt, is jarring.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-21 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-21 13:33 C-x C-b and C-x C-f bugging about confirmation Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-11-21 14:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-21 15:46   ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-21 15:51     ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-21 16:08     ` Sam Steingold
2008-11-21 17:07       ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-21 21:23         ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-11-22 16:12           ` Miles Bader
2008-11-21 18:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-22  3:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-22 10:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-23  3:39             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-23 11:25               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-24  3:08                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-24  7:24                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-11-24 15:50                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-22 12:18           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-11-22 13:51           ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-11-23  3:50             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-22 11:35       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-11-21 18:03     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-21 18:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-21 19:29       ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2008-11-21 23:58         ` Tassilo Horn
2008-11-22  3:30         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-22 10:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-22  1:54       ` Miles Bader
2008-11-22  7:08       ` mail
2008-11-22  8:24         ` Miles Bader
2008-11-21 18:37   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-22 11:26   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-11-23  3:49     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-23  4:44       ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-23 11:24         ` Romain Francoise
2008-11-23 12:45       ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-23 13:45         ` Miles Bader
2008-11-23 15:27           ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-23 22:17           ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-24  3:18           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-24  5:21             ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-24 15:52               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-24 19:58                 ` mail
2008-11-25  4:03               ` Miles Bader
2008-11-25 15:21                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-25 20:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-24 11:24       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-11-24 15:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-24 17:52           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-11-28 18:52             ` Romain Francoise
2008-11-28 19:12               ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-28 21:06               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-28 22:27                 ` partial-completion-mode (was: C-x C-b and C-x C-f bugging about confirmation) Romain Francoise
2008-11-29  2:48                   ` partial-completion-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-11-29 19:44                     ` partial-completion-mode Romain Francoise
2008-11-29 20:42                       ` partial-completion-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-12-02 12:39                 ` C-x C-b and C-x C-f bugging about confirmation Klaus Zeitler
2008-12-02 13:05                   ` Tassilo Horn
2008-12-03 12:22                     ` Klaus Zeitler
2008-11-22 11:16 ` Gilaras Drakeson

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