From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sean Sieger Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: News server access from Gnus Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:10:12 -0400 Message-ID: <87r60ux6pn.fsf@gmail.com> References: <877i2qg5tj.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87bps28xd5.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87y6v6o4ng.fsf_-_@kobe.laptop> <20090317204759.6dcb6f2c@gom> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1237385474 15317 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2009 14:11:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:11:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 18 15:12:28 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LjwVH-0002Tp-LT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:12:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37693 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LjwTv-0002hs-7Z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:10:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LjwTZ-0002h1-Mp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:10:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LjwTV-0002gC-97 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:10:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50021 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LjwTV-0002g9-32 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:10:29 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:37738 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LjwTU-0000df-In for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:10:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LjwTS-0006r3-Vw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:10:26 +0000 Original-Received: from pool-70-18-30-96.ny325.east.verizon.net ([70.18.30.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:10:26 +0000 Original-Received: from sean.sieger by pool-70-18-30-96.ny325.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:10:26 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 44 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-18-30-96.ny325.east.verizon.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:mM/M581DV6e59SDPStoUTD9WYtU= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:63046 Archived-At: prad writes: On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:30:27 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > If your ISP is not actively blocking NNTP access to other sources, you > can always register to sunsite.dk > we do have news i found out from our isp, but it doesn't offer much so i've setup on sunsite.dk - in fact, i'm replying through the newsgroup instead of the maillist. i'll give emacs gnus a try later this week. btw, motzeralla looks good too though i couldn't find this emacs newsgroup on it. the reason i posted this here instead of sending it privately is that i'm trying to figure out what the advantages are of accessing things through usenet vs email and would appreciate input on this from anyone. the main ones i can see is that usenet works rather like an imap system so that you aren't actually downloading everything and that it is easier to search in posts which you may not have on your machine anymore. any thoughts on this for this list specifically perhaps? Prad, I have (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.gmane.org")) in my .emacs (I don't use a .gnus.el anymore, just one more file to back up). And the combination of Gnus and Gmane ... I don't know, is a powerful one to my way of thinking. At any point, I can subscribe to most any list that I have ever wanted to and had at my fingertips, the contents of the archive to do C-s and C-r on to my hearts content. And really learn something let alone find answers to questions that have been asked a lot of times. I just spent last weekend reading the Cedet archive. The Python thread alone is, for example a model of how to contribute a language to Cedet. I'll tell you, I have unscribed to groups only to resubscribe and have the server dump all that mail on me so that I may peruse it again and again. It's not necessary to do things like this. There are many more reasons to hook up Gnus to a newsserver.