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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: What is the proper way to set the default font these days?
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:25:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r5xrlipl.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvvdn3g2v5.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> I agree, but at least on X, that leads to annoying frame-thrashing on
>> startup.
>
> I believe you can avoid the frame thrashing now, by using the
> emacs-daemon ;-)

Hmmm, that works (at first glance anyway).
[Using the command:  emacsclient -a '' -c -n]

I do notice a few issues:

  (1) Mode-line contains an "@", apparently meaning "emacsclient-invoked"

      When using this method of startup, _everything_ is
      emacsclient-invoked, so the "@" indicator is pointless

      Pointless indicators are annoying regardless, but this one is
      especially annoying because a mode-line "@" is _also_ used by
      tramp to indicate that the cwd of a buffer is "remote" (and that's
      the sense I'm used to, so seeing "@" in the mode-line triggers
      "uh-oh" instincts).

      It seems that it should be used more judiciously -- e.g., only for
      frames corresponding to files or for which -n wasn't specified.

      I don't know the exact formulation, but anyway, something that
      actually makes it useful instead of distracting.

      Maybe the potential confusion with tramp usage is also worth
      addressing.

  (2) The startup message "When done with this frame, type C-x 5 0" is
      vaguely irritating -- again, it seems aimed at "short-lived"
      invocations.

  (3) I'm not sure what I think about being able to delete the last
      frame; I guess I'd get used to it since it doesn't lose state...

-Miles

-- 
Once, adj. Enough.





  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-11  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-06 14:58 What is the proper way to set the default font these days? Deniz Dogan
2009-06-06 19:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-06-07  0:25   ` Deniz Dogan
2009-06-07  3:00 ` Miles Bader
2009-06-07 12:44   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-06-08  5:22     ` Miles Bader
2009-06-08 14:21       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-06-08 14:59         ` Deniz Dogan
2009-06-08 15:50           ` Chong Yidong
2009-06-08 16:17             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-06-08 16:19               ` Chong Yidong
2009-06-08 16:28                 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-06-08 16:50                   ` Chong Yidong
2009-06-10  9:17                   ` Deniz Dogan
2009-06-10 13:37                     ` Miles Bader
2009-06-10 14:08                       ` Deniz Dogan
2009-06-10 15:52                     ` Chong Yidong
2009-06-10 15:59                       ` Deniz Dogan
2009-06-29 11:44                       ` gtk toolbar bug (was Re: What is the proper way to set the default font these days?) Bruce Stephens
2009-06-29 17:49                         ` Deniz Dogan
2009-06-29 19:30                           ` gtk toolbar bug Bruce Stephens
2009-06-29 21:37                             ` Bruce Stephens
2009-06-30 14:42                               ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-01 14:10                                 ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-01 15:25                                   ` Bruce Stephens
2009-06-08 22:15             ` What is the proper way to set the default font these days? Chad Brown
2009-06-08 22:40               ` David Reitter
2009-06-09  0:42                 ` Miles Bader
2009-06-10 22:07                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-06-11  0:25                     ` Miles Bader [this message]
2009-06-09  3:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-06-08 22:03       ` Johan Bockgård
2009-06-12 17:14       ` James Cloos
2009-06-12 21:00         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-06-15  3:29         ` Miles Bader
2009-07-01 22:35           ` Deniz Dogan
2009-07-02  6:44             ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-02  7:45               ` Deniz Dogan
2009-07-02  8:23                 ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-02  9:19                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-02 10:59                     ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-02 12:31                       ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-02  7:54               ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-02  8:02                 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-07-02 10:38                   ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-02 11:58                     ` Deniz Dogan
2009-07-21 15:14                 ` Bruce Stephens
2009-07-21 18:48                   ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-21 19:10                     ` Bruce Stephens

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