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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: dann@ics.uci.edu, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: turning on minor modes from hooks
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:15:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r5ur7hpi.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv7hwkrqx6.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:36:51 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> A call with no arguments, as in (auto-save-mode), naturally ought to
>> toggle the mode or turn it on.
>
> Care to explain why?

Note that he said "or turn it on"; I think the point was to distinguish
those possibilities from "unconditionally turn it off".

Probably most programmers would agree that having (foo-mode)
unconditionally disable foo-mode would be pretty weird...!  Having
(foo-mode nil) turn it on or toggle is actually a bit weird too, though
a bit less so...

Using &rest  is generally not a good idea because it conses,
but... since mode functions are generally not called in inner loops,
maybe it would be OK for this case...?

[It would be nice if elisp supported cheap non-nil defaults for
&optional args...]

-miles

-- 
Accordion, n. An instrument in harmony with the sentiments of an assassin.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-31 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-29 21:25 turning on minor modes from hooks Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-29 23:18 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-30  0:14   ` Drew Adams
2009-08-30  2:11     ` Miles Bader
2009-08-30  3:01       ` Drew Adams
2009-08-30  3:58         ` Miles Bader
2009-08-30  3:59     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-30  4:00       ` Miles Bader
2009-08-31  3:33   ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-31 14:36     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-31 22:15       ` Miles Bader [this message]
2009-08-31 23:32         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-01  0:17           ` Miles Bader
2009-09-01 12:16       ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-01 16:19         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-01 21:20           ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-01 23:23             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-03 13:47               ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-04 21:23                 ` Geoff Gole
2009-08-31 15:30     ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-31 18:54       ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-01 12:16         ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-31 23:43       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-01  2:07       ` Stephen J. Turnbull

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