From: Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org>
To: Marek Aaron Sapota <maarons@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:56:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r5q07qe9.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100108111454.GC1426@fencepost.localnet> (Marek Aaron Sapota's message of "Fri, 8 Jan 2010 06:14:54 -0500")
Marek Aaron Sapota <maarons@gnu.org> writes:
Hi Marek,
>> > - packages have non-free dependences, sometimes programs compile
>> > fine without them, but they are pulled in anyway
>>
>> What do you mean with "pulled in". I tried to install a package that
>> has a non-free dependency, and portage 2.2 told me it cannot install
>> it, because this dependency is masked by my license restriction.
>
> I mean that I can not install a package only because it has a non-free
> dependency even if it works fine without it - for example X.Org and
> Wine pull in non-free fonts.
I've just checked xorg-x11, and it has only hard dependencies to fonts
licensed under the MIT license or public domain. I guess, I've set some
use flag, which enables this additional dependency.
Use "equery depends <non-free font>" to check, what packages tries to
pull it in, and what use flag is responsible.
>> > - some free "alternatives" are only in additional repositories
>>
>> Usually, this occurs if a package simply doesn't work for most users,
>> or no maintainer has been found yet.
>
> Icedtea is in an overlay even if it works perfectly.
I use icedtea6-bin from the main gentoo portage tree. Additionally,
portage prefers it over sun-jdk. It's possible, that there's a source
distribution of icedtea in some repository, but the binary is there in
the main tree.
>> This applies to many modular X11 packages, but work is in progress to
>> fix that. And of course, this will never make a non-free package
>> installable if you've set your ACCEPT_LICENSE to match only free
>> licenses. It will prevent installing those programs although they
>> might be free. The other way round would be a showstopper, but this
>> way it's only a little inconvenience.
>
> Indeed - it makes it inconvenient to use only Free Software with
> Gentoo.
I agree, but that will get better.
> To be a Free Distribution Gentoo would have to show commitment to Free
> Software and they clearly don't.
The social contract does:
,----[ http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/contract.xml ]
| We will release our contributions to Gentoo as free software, metadata
| or documentation, under the GNU General Public License version 2 (or
| later, at our discretion) or the Creative Commons - Attribution /
| Share Alike version 2 (or later, at our discretion). Any external
| contributions to Gentoo (in the form of freely-distributable sources,
| binaries, metadata or documentation) may be incorporated into Gentoo
| provided that we are legally entitled to do so. However, Gentoo will
| never /depend/ upon a piece of software or metadata unless it conforms
| to the GNU General Public License, the GNU Lesser General Public
| License, the Creative Commons - Attribution/Share Alike or some other
| license approved by the Open Source Initiative (OSI).
|
| Note: We are considering extending the above clause to require that
| all core Gentoo components must conform to a license approved by the
| OSI *and* Free Software Foundation (FSF).
`----
Bye,
Tassilo
[Sorry for the resent, Marek!]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-08 11:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-28 17:04 'bzr init-repo .' crashes for lack of module bz2. Help, please! Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-28 21:14 ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-28 23:05 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-12-29 20:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-29 20:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-29 20:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-29 23:49 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-12-31 12:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-31 17:04 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-01-03 17:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-03 18:16 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-03 21:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-04 0:06 ` Miles Bader
2010-01-04 0:13 ` Jason Rumney
2010-01-06 13:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-04 8:16 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-04 16:23 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-04 20:42 ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages (was: 'bzr init-repo .' crashes for lack of module bz2. Help, please!) Tassilo Horn
2010-01-05 9:03 ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages Ulrich Mueller
2010-01-05 20:45 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-05 20:45 ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages (was: 'bzr init-repo .' crashes for lack of module bz2. Help, please!) Richard Stallman
2010-01-06 0:10 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-06 20:45 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-07 8:35 ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages Tassilo Horn
2010-01-07 22:49 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-08 0:06 ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08 9:30 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 11:20 ` Marek Aaron Sapota
[not found] ` <20100108111454.GC1426@fencepost.localnet>
2010-01-08 11:56 ` Tassilo Horn [this message]
2010-01-08 12:44 ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08 14:44 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 15:47 ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08 15:23 ` Yavor Doganov
2010-01-08 15:57 ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08 16:23 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 16:46 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-08 8:56 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 23:01 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-06 7:35 ` Tassilo Horn
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