From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Integrating package.el
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:34:17 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r5o2onja.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwv7hpvkamu.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:19:47 -0500 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> OK. But I still think Emacs should record the version as I suggested
>> whenever it finds it in a .el/.elc file. It would help resolve many
>> annoying user-level bugs by showing exactly what version of the library
>> was loaded, not implied from the directory but directly from the version
>> header. Does that require lots of changes?
SM> I don't see much evidence that "it would help resolve many annoying
SM> user-level bugs".
There was one just a few days ago on the Gnus newsgroup, which Katsumi
Yamaoka resolved by prior experience but otherwise would have been
really puzzling. I've seen many like it. The general problem of
shadowed paths is pretty pervasive and frustrating, especially since
users know many ways to add to the load-path.
SM> I'm not opposed to it, but when it comes to making external Elisp
SM> packages easier to manage for the user, this comes very far down the
SM> list of priorities.
All right, thanks. I will keep it in mind.
Ted
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Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-26 2:55 Autoload from a web page? Lennart Borgman
2009-12-27 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-27 3:24 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-28 18:48 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-28 18:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-29 1:32 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-29 1:39 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-29 2:45 ` joakim
2009-12-29 2:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-29 4:52 ` Tom Tromey
2009-12-29 22:25 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-30 6:13 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-30 18:06 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2009-12-30 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-30 19:10 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-01 0:40 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-01 19:27 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-01 19:26 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-04 18:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 15:11 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 18:46 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-29 21:14 ` unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo (was: Autoload from a web page?) Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 21:21 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-12-29 21:38 ` unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 21:36 ` Tom Tromey
2009-12-30 16:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-31 5:32 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-01 19:18 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-03 5:38 ` Integrating package.el (was Re: unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo) Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-04 17:55 ` Integrating package.el Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-04 19:51 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-05 5:02 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-05 5:37 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-05 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 16:03 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 16:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 20:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 23:50 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-06 20:45 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-06 21:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-09 5:40 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-09 14:32 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-09 17:47 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-10 10:41 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-10 11:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-10 14:04 ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-10 16:00 ` joakim
2010-01-10 20:43 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-10 20:07 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-10 21:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-10 23:02 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-11 3:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-14 3:12 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-19 11:40 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-19 17:17 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-02-22 19:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-02-22 20:36 ` joakim
2010-02-23 22:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-02-24 21:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-02-25 20:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-01 14:59 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 16:32 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-01 17:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 20:59 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-02 17:39 ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-02 18:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 21:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-02 13:34 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2010-03-01 21:37 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-01 22:18 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-03-01 22:30 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-03-01 23:00 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-02 13:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-03 20:13 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-04 5:42 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-02 19:03 ` Davis Herring
2010-02-25 22:56 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-03-04 5:39 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-04 7:29 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-04 18:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-05 4:41 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-04 13:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-04 18:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-04 18:33 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-07 22:58 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-04 20:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-07 23:16 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-08 3:17 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-08 14:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-08 17:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-08 17:53 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-04 18:30 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-05 0:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-01 14:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 16:26 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-01 17:28 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 18:06 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-01 21:22 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-03 20:15 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-03 20:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-03 22:21 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-02 13:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 21:09 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-11 3:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-12 20:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-12 21:37 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-05 15:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 16:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 17:51 ` Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus) (was: Integrating package.el) Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 19:43 ` Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus) Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 22:28 ` Gnus encouragement of GMail (was: Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus)) Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 17:27 ` Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus) (was: Integrating package.el) Reiner Steib
2010-01-05 18:03 ` Integrating package.el Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-05 18:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 19:14 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-05 20:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 23:19 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-06 15:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-30 17:16 ` unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-01 19:21 ` Tom Tromey
2009-12-29 5:22 ` Autoload from a web page? Richard Stallman
2009-12-29 5:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-02 15:45 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-04 2:26 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-04 16:23 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-29 17:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-30 16:30 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-30 16:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-30 17:08 ` Lennart Borgman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-10 22:06 Integrating package.el MON KEY
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