Can I preload my ~/.emacs source for editing only?

Can I preload my ~/.emacs source for editing only?

[Bill]

When emacs is running I can C-x C-f to load my ~/.emacs source into a
buffer for editing. That is easy enough, but I would like to know how
to do it programmaticaly so it preloads on startup. Using (load "path-
to-dot-emacs") makes emacs protest about redundant evaluation. This
newbie just wants to edit, not evaluate.

Re: Can I preload my ~/.emacs source for editing only?

[David Kastrup]

Bill <bsagert@gmail.com> writes:

> When emacs is running I can C-x C-f to load my ~/.emacs source into a
> buffer for editing. That is easy enough, but I would like to know how
> to do it programmaticaly so it preloads on startup. Using (load "path-
> to-dot-emacs") makes emacs protest about redundant evaluation. This
> newbie just wants to edit, not evaluate.

Why do you use load then?  find-file would appear to be what you are
looking for.

-- 
David Kastrup

Re: Can I preload my ~/.emacs source for editing only?

[Pascal J. Bourguignon]

Bill <bsagert@gmail.com> writes:

> When emacs is running I can C-x C-f to load my ~/.emacs source into a
> buffer for editing. That is easy enough, but I would like to know how
> to do it programmaticaly so it preloads on startup. Using (load "path-
> to-dot-emacs") makes emacs protest about redundant evaluation. This
> newbie just wants to edit, not evaluate.

When you want to know what commande hides behind a keychoard, you can
use C-h k

Type C-h k C-x C-f 

and see what command is used to find a file and edit it.  

You can then insert a form using this command in your ~/.emacs, such
as:

  (find-file "~/.emacs")


The opposite of C-h k is C-h w which tells you where (to which
keychoards) a command is bound.  For example, C-h w find-file RET
displays in the minibuffer:
find-file is on <open>, C-x C-f, <menu-bar> <file> <new-file>

-- 
__Pascal Bourguignon__
http://www.informatimago.com

Re: Can I preload my ~/.emacs source for editing only?

[jpkotta]

On May 4, 5:07 am, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon)
wrote:
> Bill <bsag...@gmail.com> writes:
> > When emacs is running I can C-x C-f to load my ~/.emacs source into a
> > buffer for editing. That is easy enough, but I would like to know how
> > to do it programmaticaly so it preloads on startup. Using (load "path-
> > to-dot-emacs") makes emacs protest about redundant evaluation. This
> > newbie just wants to edit, not evaluate.
>
> When you want to know what commande hides behind a keychoard, you can
> use C-h k
>
> Type C-h k C-x C-f
>
> and see what command is used to find a file and edit it.  
>
> You can then insert a form using this command in your ~/.emacs, such
> as:
>
>   (find-file "~/.emacs")
>
> The opposite of C-h k is C-h w which tells you where (to which
> keychoards) a command is bound.  For example, C-h w find-file RET
> displays in the minibuffer:
> find-file is on <open>, C-x C-f, <menu-bar> <file> <new-file>
>
> --
> __Pascal Bourguignon__http://www.informatimago.com

The variable `user-init-file' always points to the user's init file,
whatever it might be named.  For example, I use ~/.emacs.d/init.el
instead of ~/.emacs.

Re: Can I preload my ~/.emacs source for editing only?

[Pascal J. Bourguignon]

jpkotta <jpkotta@gmail.com> writes:

> On May 4, 5:07 am, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon)
> wrote:
>> Bill <bsag...@gmail.com> writes:
>> > When emacs is running I can C-x C-f to load my ~/.emacs source into a
>> > buffer for editing. That is easy enough, but I would like to know how
>> > to do it programmaticaly so it preloads on startup. Using (load "path-
>> > to-dot-emacs") makes emacs protest about redundant evaluation. This
>> > newbie just wants to edit, not evaluate.
>>
>> When you want to know what commande hides behind a keychoard, you can
>> use C-h k
>>
>> Type C-h k C-x C-f
>>
>> and see what command is used to find a file and edit it.  
>>
>> You can then insert a form using this command in your ~/.emacs, such
>> as:
>>
>>   (find-file "~/.emacs")
>>
>> The opposite of C-h k is C-h w which tells you where (to which
>> keychoards) a command is bound.  For example, C-h w find-file RET
>> displays in the minibuffer:
>> find-file is on <open>, C-x C-f, <menu-bar> <file> <new-file>
>>
> The variable `user-init-file' always points to the user's init file,
> whatever it might be named.  For example, I use ~/.emacs.d/init.el
> instead of ~/.emacs.

What's the point,  if ~/.emacs.d still starts with a dot?
And if "~/.emacs" is mapped to the right file on all platforms by emacs?

(Otherwise, thanks for the hint, it would be good to use it in emacs
lisp libraries if need to access the init file occurs).

-- 
__Pascal Bourguignon__
http://www.informatimago.com

Re: Can I preload my ~/.emacs source for editing only?

[jpkotta]

On May 4, 12:08 pm, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon)
wrote:
> jpkotta <jpko...@gmail.com> writes:
> > On May 4, 5:07 am, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon)
> > wrote:
> >> Bill <bsag...@gmail.com> writes:
> >> > When emacs is running I can C-x C-f to load my ~/.emacs source into a
> >> > buffer for editing. That is easy enough, but I would like to know how
> >> > to do it programmaticaly so it preloads on startup. Using (load "path-
> >> > to-dot-emacs") makes emacs protest about redundant evaluation. This
> >> > newbie just wants to edit, not evaluate.
>
> >> When you want to know what commande hides behind a keychoard, you can
> >> use C-h k
>
> >> Type C-h k C-x C-f
>
> >> and see what command is used to find a file and edit it.  
>
> >> You can then insert a form using this command in your ~/.emacs, such
> >> as:
>
> >>   (find-file "~/.emacs")
>
> >> The opposite of C-h k is C-h w which tells you where (to which
> >> keychoards) a command is bound.  For example, C-h w find-file RET
> >> displays in the minibuffer:
> >> find-file is on <open>, C-x C-f, <menu-bar> <file> <new-file>
>
> > The variable `user-init-file' always points to the user's init file,
> > whatever it might be named.  For example, I use ~/.emacs.d/init.el
> > instead of ~/.emacs.
>
> What's the point,  if ~/.emacs.d still starts with a dot?
> And if "~/.emacs" is mapped to the right file on all platforms by emacs?
>

I'd rather have everything in one directory.  At the very least it
makes completion easier because only one thing in my home starts with
".emacs".

> (Otherwise, thanks for the hint, it would be good to use it in emacs
> lisp libraries if need to access the init file occurs).
>
> --
> __Pascal Bourguignon__http://www.informatimago.com

Re: Can I preload my ~/.emacs source for editing only?

[Steven Knight]

On Tuesday 04 May 2010 03:05:58 Bill wrote:
> When emacs is running I can C-x C-f to load my ~/.emacs source into a
> buffer for editing. That is easy enough, but I would like to know how
> to do it programmaticaly so it preloads on startup. Using (load "path-
> to-dot-emacs") makes emacs protest about redundant evaluation. This
> newbie just wants to edit, not evaluate.
> 

Hi,

I use the following:

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
; open user-init-file on startup, but doesn't show the buffer
(add-hook 'emacs-startup-hook (lambda () (find-file-noselect user-init-file)))
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;


Thanks,


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