From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Giorgos Keramidas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: greek-style quotes for greek input method? Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 14:55:59 +0300 Message-ID: <87r5i8vw34.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <87r5i9dye9.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87hbj45lae.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87d3ts5l1u.fsf@kobe.laptop> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281354995 26558 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2010 11:56:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 11:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 09 13:56:32 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiQy0-0003dp-3Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 13:56:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58801 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiQxz-0005QQ-Ez for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 07:56:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43128 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiQxs-0005QI-HA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 07:56:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiQxq-00078X-Qt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 07:56:24 -0400 Original-Received: from igloo.linux.gr ([62.1.205.36]:56071) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiQxq-000788-CT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 07:56:22 -0400 X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.9, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-ID: o79Bu7gW011831 Original-Received: from kobe.laptop (77.49.125.93.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [77.49.125.93]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1) with ESMTP id o79Bu7gW011831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 9 Aug 2010 14:56:14 +0300 Original-Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o79Bu1wW027214 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Aug 2010 14:56:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Original-Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o79Bu0i3027211; Mon, 9 Aug 2010 14:56:00 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) In-Reply-To: (Kenichi Handa's message of "Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:03:18 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128472 Archived-At: On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:03:18 +0900, Kenichi Handa wrote: > In article <87d3ts5l1u.fsf@kobe.laptop>, Giorgos Keramidas writes: >> > Should we also modify the greek-postfix rules to include "<;" and ">;" >> > for the same? > >> Something like this perhaps? > [...] >> (quail-define-package >> "greek-postfix" "GreekPost" "=CE=A8" nil >> @@ -1419,7 +1421,9 @@ e.g. >> ("i:;" ?=CE=90) >> ("i;:" ?=CE=90) >> ("y:;" ?=CE=B0) >> - ("y;:" ?=CE=B0)) >> + ("y;:" ?=CE=B0) >> + ("<;" ?=C2=AB) >> + (">;" ?=C2=BB)) > > I'm not sure. In many Latin prefix methods, "~<" is used for "=C2=AB", b= ut > in Latin prefix methods, "<<" is used for "=C2=AB". It seems that this > asymmetricness has some meaning. Isn't it more convenient also for > greek-postfix to use "<<" provided that there's no standard for it. Thanks for clarifying this! Whatever feels more natural for the rest of input-methods is fine. I just tried the "<;" / ">;" patch in a local build and it works. If the rest of postfix input methods use "<<" and ">>", then I'll wait until the patch hits trunk and remove my local changes :-)