From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: rainbow-mode Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:03:59 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87r5el8iwg.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87mxpabjj3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <8762vyz5rl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <5D7ECAE48B634FAEAA14E2BDCA4EAAD7@us.oracle.com> <8762vxetuf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1289916277 21344 80.91.229.12 (16 Nov 2010 14:04:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:04:37 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 16 15:04:34 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIM9B-00070z-1D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:04:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32981 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PIM9A-0003dq-7b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:04:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43906 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PIM90-0003bE-At for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:04:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PIM8w-0003yH-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:04:22 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:53756) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PIM8w-0003xw-3b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:04:18 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIM8t-0006nV-11 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:04:15 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:04:15 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:04:15 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:GIbsc/v8g0RqX128jd7xjXN37pA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132706 Archived-At: On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:25:08 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: LMI> "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: >> IIRC, the most recent discussion concluded that none of the half- >> implemented modes is good enough, especially given the nice features >> in the other half-implemented modes, and nobody stepped up to the >> plate to merge them, document the result, and make sure the result >> conforms to coding standards etc. LMI> Again, I think that illustrates my point. LMI> I think experience shows that packages that are in Emacs do get hacked LMI> on to add features that people feel are missing. Small packages that LMI> live outside of Emacs don't get that treatment, as a norm. So let's check everything on the Emacs Wiki into Emacs. By your theory that will get the Emacs developers to work on all of it. I'm trying to say that: - there's plenty of bit rot in Emacs itself - this is a manpower problem, not a segregation problem - new packages don't add complexity linearly Ted