From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VIRT_ADDR_VARIES Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:05:04 +0900 Message-ID: <87r51gmxlb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <4EB73983.1060000@cs.ucla.edu> <4EB86864.5080709@cs.ucla.edu> <4EB96841.7020701@cs.ucla.edu> <4EB99C7D.8000407@cs.ucla.edu> <4EBABBF5.5030602@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1320897934 1671 80.91.229.12 (10 Nov 2011 04:05:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 04:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andreas Schwab , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 10 05:05:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ROLtC-00051D-Sm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 05:05:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48180 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ROLtC-0002S6-AX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:05:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48050) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ROLtA-0002S1-58 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:05:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ROLt8-00007r-VR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:05:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:59496) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ROLt8-0008WI-NN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:05:18 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C687C3FA0758; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:05:04 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BF73311F279; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:05:04 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <4EBABBF5.5030602@cs.ucla.edu> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0a1 under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" 2dbefd79b3d3 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.223 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145962 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > Sorry, I'm lost. As I understand it, the > executable in a traditional Unix-like system has > storage laid out in this order: We don't live in a traditional world anymore. We have SELinux, randomized base addresses, and the Hannibal Lector "Slice 'Em & Dice 'Em" version of GNU ld to deal with, as well as a few "legacy" environments that don't deliberately try to mess with the heads of people who used to use BASIC to "poke" 8080 instructions into memory.