From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Periodical releases Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 10:58:19 +0800 Message-ID: <87r4ze3lf8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <71588355363047528F16FE989690A488@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325732319 18629 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2012 02:58:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 02:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dave Abrahams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 05 03:58:33 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RidXE-0008Og-Gp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 03:58:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57572 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RidXE-0006VE-0e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:58:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38429) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RidXA-0006V6-GG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:58:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RidX9-00009y-HP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:58:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:37021) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RidX9-00009u-CL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:58:27 -0500 Original-Received: from bb220-255-44-158.singnet.com.sg ([220.255.44.158]:50974 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RidX8-0007s3-Io; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:58:27 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:34:25 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147309 Archived-At: Dave Abrahams writes: > Is it not possible to have thorougness and high quality with more > frequent releases of smaller scope? Maybe the problem (if there is > one) is that trunk is allowed to drift too far from a releasable > state. I'm just saying. Features like bidi can't really be added piecemeal, and this goes back to Eli's point about bit-rotting feature trees. Frankly, I'm not convinced there's any problem. Emacs 23.3 was released less than one year ago, and we are already well into the pretest for 24.1. Doing considerably better would require resources we don't have. Note that all those projects that are being held up as models for their periodic release systems have people working on them full time!