From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CL package serious deficiencies Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:07:02 +0900 Message-ID: <87r4y6xem1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <33271707.post@talk.nabble.com> <87fwemcwlx.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <87zkcubbfc.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <87vcnibb9t.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <87r4y6bams.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328666835 13782 80.91.229.3 (8 Feb 2012 02:07:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: egnarts-ms , Lennart Borgman , Stefan Monnier , Drew Adams , Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nix Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 08 03:07:14 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RuwwD-0006Xz-87 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 03:07:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50056 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ruww9-0005RO-Fy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:07:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ruww7-0005RH-CW for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:07:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ruww6-0000g9-5v for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:07:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:53044) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ruww5-0000fx-T1 for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:07:06 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279849707EA; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:07:03 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E84C91A282A; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:07:02 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <87r4y6bams.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" e6b5c49f9e13 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148342 Archived-At: Nix writes: > (FWIW, the *last* time I asked about this, many years ago, I was told > that runtime use of cl was out of the question because it used too much > memory. I presume that this argument is obsolete :) ) The feeling I get is that some senior Emacs developers simply rather dislike Common Lisp, think that the programming style it encourages sucks, and don't want to see it in code they work on frequently. Ah, the sweet smell of "technical differences" in the design fog....