From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs: Problems of the Scratch Buffer Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 10:36:27 +0200 Message-ID: <87r4vhv5v8.fsf@gnuvola.org> References: <1bqkr.13803$mL3.9455@newsfe23.iad> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1334997520 1491 80.91.229.3 (21 Apr 2012 08:38:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:38:40 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 21 10:38:39 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SLVq2-000706-3h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 10:38:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55154 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLVq1-0004L3-7V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 04:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48054) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLVpw-0004Ky-5c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 04:38:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLVpu-0002y4-Gp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 04:38:31 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp207.alice.it ([82.57.200.103]:50569) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLVpu-0002xt-5v for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 04:38:30 -0400 Original-Received: from ambire (79.10.74.68) by smtp207.alice.it (8.6.023.02) id 4F05A6650C5CB6A6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 10:38:28 +0200 Original-Received: from ttn by ambire with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SLVnw-0000Uh-3t for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 10:36:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1bqkr.13803$mL3.9455@newsfe23.iad> (Chiron's message of "Sat, 21 Apr 2012 03:53:33 GMT") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 82.57.200.103 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:84545 Archived-At: () Chiron () Sat, 21 Apr 2012 03:53:33 GMT The current maintainers have absolutely no incentive to try to make emacs appealing to the masses. Maybe, maybe not. If they did that, sure, they'd probably get plenty of new maintainers, but these new guys would change their tool in ways they don't want. They're OK with the way it is right now. What's in it for them to change it? Well, a superior change accomodates both old and new. Not every programmer realizes such change, but there's no point losing hope. Whether or not that programmer is a maintainer is beside the point.