From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aidan Gauland Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Eshell and Sudo Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 08:44:17 +1300 Message-ID: <87r4kgcacu.fsf@dimension8.tehua.net> References: <87ehgg451n.fsf@gnu.org> <87txpc3wnn.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361043877 25370 80.91.229.3 (16 Feb 2013 19:44:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:44:37 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 16 20:44:59 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U6ngu-0005yB-W3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:44:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40348 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U6ngb-0003Ak-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:44:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58287) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U6ngZ-0003AR-0N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:44:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U6ngX-0001sB-Tb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:44:34 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:46407) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U6ngX-0001ru-Mp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:44:33 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U6ngn-0005tU-0A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:44:49 +0100 Original-Received: from 114-134-6-163.rurallink.co.nz ([114.134.6.163]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:44:48 +0100 Original-Received: from aidalgol by 114-134-6-163.rurallink.co.nz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:44:48 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 114-134-6-163.rurallink.co.nz User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:vSW7CiUxybbijrXx05c+1uDA+Lk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157089 Archived-At: Michael Albinus writes: > Ian D writes: > >> Eshell Developers, > > Hi Ian, > >> I tried running Emacs without a configuration file, using -q, >> and got the same thing. Does anyone know why it's doing this? > > I guess you mean -Q. Anyway, same result here. > > Even stranger, if I preload tramp by "emacs -Q -l tramp", I get random > results: No one, not even John Wiegley, seems to know why sudo/su works for some people and not others. Debugging Eshell sudo/su is on my TODO list. I don't even know whether this is an Eshell problem or a TRAMP problem. I suspect tramp, since Eshell is only calling TRAMP (which should *not* be blowing up like it does for some people). Regards, Aidan Gauland