From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Basic legal question: Publication of a fix to psgml Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:02:04 +0100 Message-ID: <87r4is7x0j.fsf@zerg32.ncl.ac.uk> References: <51584E07.8060709@easy-emacs.de> <87ppydxqh4.fsf@scipolis.de> <515BE043.8030900@easy-emacs.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364983353 30387 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2013 10:02:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 10:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 03 12:03:01 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNKWy-0007ik-TQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:03:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41131 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNKWa-0006Un-6j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:02:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60172) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNKWC-0006TZ-HL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:02:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNKW9-0001TN-SW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:02:12 -0400 Original-Received: from cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.22]:38772) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNKW9-0001SY-N9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:02:09 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk ([10.8.233.129]) by cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UNKW5-0001n6-DE; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:02:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (zerg32.ncl.ac.uk [10.66.65.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r33A24qN018997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 3 Apr 2013 11:02:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <515BE043.8030900@easy-emacs.de> ("Andreas \=\?utf-8\?Q\?R\=C3\=B6h\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?ler\=22's\?\= message of "Wed, 3 Apr 2013 09:54:43 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 128.240.234.22 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:89926 Archived-At: Andreas R=C3=B6hler writes: >> For example, there could arise severe damage if some malicious company >> (you name it) suddenly claimed that central pieces of GNU software were >> contributed (maybe years ago) by some of their employees without >> employer's permission. >> > > In which way a CA-paper could avoid that? > What about the opposite danger: a company signs, provides crucial parts a= nd withdraws CA? > See current discussions at emacs-devel on a lower scale. It doesn't. It's the employer disclaimer of rights that avoids this.=20 Of course, this doesn't avoid the problem entirely; I mean, the disclaimer could be a fake. The employer could claim the person who signed it didn't have the right to. The law could change entirely, meaning that the entire world is now owned by Facebook, Google or Microsoft.=20 It's about due diligence. The FSF is taking reasonable steps to ensure that it can carry out it's mission. This all sounds sensible to me.=20 If unfortunate; I don't think anyone would argue that its not a pain in the ass.=20 Phil