From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14044: 24.2; Emacs 24 and dead keys in Fedora 18 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:15:46 +0200 Message-ID: <87r4hxr419.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <87zjwm5uyi.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366971377 13283 80.91.229.3 (26 Apr 2013 10:16:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:16:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14044@debbugs.gnu.org, Alexandre =?UTF-8?Q?Lag=C3=BCe-Jacques?= To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 26 12:16:15 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UVfhJ-0003sT-Ak for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:16:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56134 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UVfhI-0002bm-Sw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:16:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56561) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UVfhE-0002bY-Q6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:16:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UVfhC-00058V-Jt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40115) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UVfhC-00058N-C5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVfhB-0002SB-HY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:16:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Tassilo Horn Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14044.13669713539387 (code B ref 14044); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:16:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2013 10:15:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44223 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVfh2-0002RH-Cl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:15:52 -0400 Original-Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:38875) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVfh0-0002R9-2Q for 14044@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:15:51 -0400 Original-Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5935020919; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:15:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=mMAFQcE005ogcqxsfRD5HF6grLE=; b=ME/rDLZwB66tyMl/Ej4n1ElEH+t3 euhsnj8dK4M3zApTbPQCB6wheq6W17RgS4QEBmZbmMuDLU2KT9p1UuExmdgCNwAR olLC0/82pFKe8hZfQjn8nYh4jG/XupmIpg5FGclnbuxtZINMa7cMABbnikQOhn0k Oheo5Wb+Vj155MQ= X-Sasl-enc: hQKhRNpizaOY1mqFz5ArNHWP9ZMrC7dpGlMWJelc+Agm 1366971348 Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (unknown [91.67.10.84]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 88F49200148; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:15:48 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:58:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:73720 Archived-At: Andreas Schwab writes: >> I also can't insert ` anymore, except with `M-x ucs-insert GRAVE >> ACCENT RET'. Typing ` (which is AltGr+< on my German Dvorak layout) >> messages just >> >> is undefined > > Your keyboard is misconfigured. Any hints how to diagnose the problem? I don't have any custom configurations for the X server at all, except this one: ,----[ /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/99-my-keyboard.conf ] | Section "InputClass" | Identifier "Default Keyboard" | MatchIsKeyboard "on" | Driver "evdev" | | Option "XkbLayout" "de" | Option "XkbVariant" "dvorak" | Option "XkbModel" "evdev" | Option "XkbRules" "evdev" | Option "XKbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" | EndSection `---- I haven't touched that file for years, and as said, it used to work. > Your X server should have a compose rule that composes the dead_grave > keysym with the following key, so that Emacs doesn't see the > dead_grave keysym at all (provided the composition was sucessful). At > the very least the sequence or > should produce the keysym. Hm, what's happening is actually quite different depending on application. - Any GNOME3 GTK+3 application, or GTK+2 applications like GIMP: I can insert a ` by typing AltGr+< twice, or AltGr+< SPACE. - Qt4 apps: Typing just AltGr+< immediately inserts a `, so no composition here. - xterm: I can't insert ` at all. Typing AltGr+< twice or AltGr+< SPACE seems to be ignored. Like with Emacs, I can "fix" xterm by simply starting it from a GNOME terminal. Then typing AltGr+< has the same composing behavior as in GNOME3 applications. Oh, interestingly, I can also make Qt4 apps using the composing behavior by starting them from a gnome-terminal... Bye, Tassilo