From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to restore the layout? Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:33:32 +0200 Message-ID: <87r4frcq9v.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> References: <51C5AA68.4000204@alice.it> <51C6B138.50903@gmx.at> <51C6CF57.9030203@alice.it> <51C87C3E.90904@gmx.at> <83ehbrju1d.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372098829 15739 80.91.229.3 (24 Jun 2013 18:33:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: martin rudalics , Eli Zaretskii , Angelo Graziosi , Emacs developers To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 24 20:33:48 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UrBaG-0007n8-PC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:33:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50876 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrBaG-0006nr-3g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:33:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48265) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrBa9-0006iL-QQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:33:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrBa4-0005ji-Mu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:33:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:56674) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrBa4-0005jP-E1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:33:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.17]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MRydg-1Ugqkn1BgQ-00TFe2 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:33:35 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Jun 2013 18:33:34 -0000 Original-Received: from i59F54452.versanet.de (EHLO rosalinde.fritz.box) [89.245.68.82] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 24 Jun 2013 20:33:34 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19TUHwQdTNTkAwGrmawqFnaOfYwJYVweB2vUjbyTG hdAkLGWX4IY3nh In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:52:37 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:160968 Archived-At: On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:52:37 +0200 Juanma Barranquero wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > -c >>> Parameters not saved by `current-window-configuration' or >>> `window-state-get' are left alone by `set-window-configuration' >>> respectively are not installed by `window-state-put'. >> >> No, it's just a style you are not used to. > > Much as I try, I fail to see how to parse that sentence, but I'm > willing to believe it is correct. Still, I'd recommend rewriting it in > an easier-to-parse way. > > (After some effort, I suppose "respectively" distributes "parameters > not saved by c-w-c" to "left alone by s-w-c" and "or w-s-g" to "not > installed by w-s-p". If that is a common idiom in English, is not one > I've ever found, so my recommendation still stands.) A more idiomatic, though to my ear still stilted, phasing would be: Parameters not saved by `current-window-configuration' or `window-state-get' are respectively left alone by `set-window-configuration' or not installed by `window-state-put'. A more straightforward, though wordier formulation is: Parameters not saved by `current-window-configuration' are left alone by `set-window-configuration' and parameters not saved by `window-state-get' are not installed by `window-state-put'. Steve Berman