From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Sanest way to make emacs behave on a Solaris OS Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 21:25:58 +0200 Message-ID: <87r4e8lz21.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <87d2pzj4m2.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87ob9izk9k.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87fvusw968.fsf@newsguy.com> <20130803070334.GA2266@dismay.proulx.com> <871u68wov1.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87li4gqb4r.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <83iozkvvwq.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375730790 30557 80.91.229.3 (5 Aug 2013 19:26:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 19:26:30 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 05 21:26:32 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V6QQJ-00060n-9G for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 21:26:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52476 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6QQI-0007AX-TE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:26:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60009) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6QQ3-000749-Tp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:26:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6QPy-000742-38 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:26:15 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44856) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6QPx-00073r-T9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:26:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V6QPw-0005nm-AD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 21:26:08 +0200 Original-Received: from 137.red-83-61-144.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.61.144.137]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 21:26:08 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 137.red-83-61-144.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 21:26:08 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.red-83-61-144.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:b4ugNNTUIgGbAfa+ePoxOZSu+5M= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92736 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> There *was* such a change, I know this, because I read it in a >> recent book on Linux and shell programming - a big, white book >> with all the tools alphabetically, and with a big section on Emacs >> (and one on vim - no bias!). > > Well, if there is such a book, and if it says what you say it says, > then that book is simply wrong. Emacs behaves like it does today for > a very long time. "A couple of versions" is definitely wrong. If > you'd say it was some time when Emacs 19.x was being released, I could > believe you. I suspect that the mentioned book was mostly about stuff you run from the console, i.e. X is not available. In that context, the `emacs' command runs on the console. Moreover, at least on Debian distributions there is an emacsNN-nox package that installs emacs version NN without graphical support. One of the installed binaries is emacsNN. Then, there is the package emacsNN which also installs the binary emacsNN, but this time with graphical support. IIRC, on all cases an `emacs' symlink is made pointing to `emacsNN'. So a Debian user might invoke emacs24 on his terminal and obtain a text-only session or a graphical session, depending on the installed package and on the availability of an X server. I'm afraid that what Mr. Berg describes as a change on Emacs behavior is not something that his book mentions, but a (wrong) conclusion he made.