From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16253: 24.3.50; Irrelevant warnings from gnutls Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:19:52 -0800 Message-ID: <87r4829ziv.fsf@building.gnus.org> References: <87vbydjnzy.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87mwj7bbi7.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87y52di4gk.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87eh45i2q2.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87mwiqpr9q.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390249273 3664 80.91.229.3 (20 Jan 2014 20:21:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:21:13 +0000 (UTC) To: 16253@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 20 21:21:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W5LLQ-00040Q-2Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:21:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54500 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5LLP-0008Q8-Mr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:21:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59248) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5LLI-0008Px-8Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:21:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5LLD-0003HR-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:21:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44714) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5LLC-0003HN-RL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:21:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W5LLC-0006xL-9Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:21:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16253 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16253-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16253.139024924726709 (code B ref 16253); Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16253) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2014 20:20:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58733 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W5LKw-0006wj-3x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:20:46 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:59662) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W5LKs-0006wZ-GL for 16253@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:20:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.55.78.101] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1W5LKd-0003VJ-Cj for 16253@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:20:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87mwiqpr9q.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:11:29 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1W5LKd-0003VJ-Cj MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1390854028.3002@qn/tFLXENxd/j5/tF1BiOg X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:83816 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > The URL library can't trap these. GnuTLS considers them highest > priority, so blocking them out would block most useful log information. Useful to whom? It's probably useful when developing applications that talk TLS, but it's not useful to the user who's just trying to read a web page. If you're reading a page, and you're loading a picture that fails, Emacs should display a "failed download" image, not spew TLS-level errors to the user. The user isn't interested. So I think that, basically, no TLS errors should be displayed to the user. At least I haven't seen one yet that's been useful to me as a user. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/