From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Thorpe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: viper-mode C-[ behavior change in Emacs 24.4 Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 02:33:42 +0100 Message-ID: <87r40r3guh.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> References: <87d2cbhpfs.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1407461657 32001 80.91.229.3 (8 Aug 2014 01:34:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 01:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 08 03:34:10 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XFZ4K-0000Xl-K4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 03:34:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48886 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFZ4J-0001ax-UG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 21:34:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57630) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFZ43-0001aj-Uh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 21:33:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFZ3y-0000jh-2h for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 21:33:51 -0400 Original-Received: from outbound-smtp06.blacknight.com ([81.17.249.39]:39994) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFZ3x-0000jW-Ti for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 21:33:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.blacknight.com (pemlinmail03.blacknight.ie [81.17.254.16]) by outbound-smtp06.blacknight.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56A598566 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 01:33:02 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: (qmail 15889 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2014 01:33:44 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO RTLaptop) (rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com@[109.79.67.49]) by 81.17.254.9 with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 8 Aug 2014 01:33:44 -0000 In-Reply-To: <87d2cbhpfs.fsf@debian.uxu> (message from Emanuel Berg on Fri, 08 Aug 2014 01:04:23 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 81.17.249.39 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99127 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Stefan Monnier writes: ... > I have never had problems with not being able to boot > or anything like that. On the other hand I don't manage > a network or multiuser system or anything like that. I > just have a Emacs and tmux and zsh and sometimes ssh > and rsync or scp to my school's Solaris. Perhaps it is > the reliance on just a few software parts that protects > me from both software and distro unstability. Everything > just seems super-stable. Am I normal or am I doing > something wrong? :) Things have improved over the years. "Unstable" now means (for Debian) something that may cause a little hassle every few months. I'm happy that I'm living in a world where people don't really understand the need for "stable" and "testing" releases of distributions. There are still some distributions where "unstable" or "testing" means that the distro is really unstable. It's not like the old days though, in the past "testing" could mean "crashes every half an hour". BR, Robert Thorpe