From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Jorgen Schaefer <forcer@forcix.cx>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Generalizing find-definition
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 08:46:33 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r3xjzw2u.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141103215526.28edeb27@forcix>
Jorgen Schaefer writes:
> The only single string that reliably would allow to find the
> correct definition would be "foo.Foo.baz", but I do not think that
> anyone would consider that to be "the identifier at point" here.
Why not? Emacs's practical definition of "identifier at point"
doesn't need to be the same as that of the programming language's
grammar. I have no trouble taking both points of view, although
usually at different times.
> So what I am saying is that the only representation for "the identifier
> at point" that allows finding the definition of said identifier is the
> triple (file name, full buffer contents, position within the buffer
> contents). There is no simpler "identifier at point".
In some sense, you always need full buffer contents except for the
very simplest of programs.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-03 23:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 172+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-02 14:15 Generalizing find-definition Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-02 15:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-02 16:29 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-02 18:14 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-02 18:35 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-02 19:51 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-02 20:17 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-03 2:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-03 7:03 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-03 7:44 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-03 14:17 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-03 14:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-03 18:28 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-03 20:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-03 20:55 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-03 22:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-04 14:52 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-04 18:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-04 23:13 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-05 2:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-06 15:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-11-06 19:40 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-07 2:57 ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-07 20:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-11-03 22:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-04 14:58 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-03 23:46 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2014-11-04 7:58 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-04 2:52 ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-04 7:41 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-06 15:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-11-06 16:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-06 17:00 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-06 17:08 ` Multiple next-error sources Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-06 23:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 9:49 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-07 14:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 15:24 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-07 15:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 16:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-07 18:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 18:22 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-07 19:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 15:41 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-07 16:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 16:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-07 17:10 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-07 17:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-08 8:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-11-07 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 18:21 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-07 18:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 19:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-03 14:46 ` Generalizing find-definition Stephen Leake
2014-11-03 16:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-04 15:39 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-04 18:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-17 20:10 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-18 8:07 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-18 11:24 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-18 12:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-11-18 12:03 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-19 14:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-19 14:51 ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-19 22:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-20 0:15 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-20 4:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-18 16:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-20 0:21 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-20 4:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-20 20:21 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-20 13:44 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-20 20:28 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-20 20:42 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-20 23:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-20 23:42 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-21 3:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-21 8:24 ` martin rudalics
2014-11-30 13:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-23 13:44 ` Johan Claesson
2014-12-01 17:31 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-04 3:13 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-04 8:07 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-04 12:45 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-04 9:11 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-04 16:19 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-04 16:49 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-05 9:43 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-05 13:25 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-05 17:41 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-06 8:55 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-06 18:19 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-06 18:38 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-07 16:52 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-06 22:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 9:55 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08 19:58 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 21:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08 21:58 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-12-09 2:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-09 2:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-09 8:40 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-09 14:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-09 14:47 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 4:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-11 8:09 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 11:12 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 18:36 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 19:21 ` David Engster
2014-12-11 19:36 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 21:53 ` David Engster
2014-12-11 22:04 ` David Engster
2014-12-12 7:26 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 22:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-11 23:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-11 23:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-11 15:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-11 18:43 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 20:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-11 20:31 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-11 21:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-15 17:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-15 21:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-15 21:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-15 21:57 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-15 22:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-15 22:17 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-15 22:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-15 22:41 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-15 22:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-15 23:03 ` Helmut Eller
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2014-12-16 21:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-17 7:25 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-19 8:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-19 8:49 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-19 14:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-19 8:56 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-19 13:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-25 20:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-26 3:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-28 22:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-29 0:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-29 0:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-29 1:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-29 14:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-29 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-29 17:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-29 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-29 18:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-27 19:01 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-27 21:22 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-12 1:29 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-12 3:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 11:15 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-12 13:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-13 9:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-12 5:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-10 9:11 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-10 13:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-10 17:00 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-10 19:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-12 1:03 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-10 14:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-11 4:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-08 22:36 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-02 22:26 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-03 7:31 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-03 8:13 ` Helmut Eller
2014-11-03 13:49 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-03 17:58 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-04 15:54 ` Stephen Leake
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