From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18891: Doesn't handle pwd = /C: very well Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:42:33 +0100 Message-ID: <87r3xa2kna.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87d291l8vd.fsf@gmx.de> <83mw85t2bu.fsf@gnu.org> <87oaskk9sm.fsf@gmx.de> <87bnokjpkw.fsf@gmx.de> <87r3xf47o3.fsf@igel.home> <87bnoi4za6.fsf@igel.home> <87fvdsivo8.fsf@gmx.de> <871tpc40hk.fsf@gmx.de> <87r3xbf3t7.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415695409 5324 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2014 08:43:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18891@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 11 09:43:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xo72m-0000UA-9T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:43:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47407 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xo72l-0002QL-TU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 03:43:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42380) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xo72c-0002Fd-FK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 03:43:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xo72W-0004K0-95 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 03:43:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59636) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xo72U-0004JJ-Aw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 03:43:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xo72T-0000ul-Pv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 03:43:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18891 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18891-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18891.14156953683496 (code B ref 18891); Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18891) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2014 08:42:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56849 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xo72F-0000uK-LR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 03:42:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:55103) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xo72D-0000uA-Ga for 18891@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 03:42:46 -0500 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.44.37]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lw2Sj-1Y4Avi0uL7-017ih1; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:42:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:30:24 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:TV9goFU1lP9HSLW99bD/LSrOfWbdgYte0WHqpnnAqqHuZQ0h1CT KoRQwQLJ+uhkFm7D0OxKl8fBTv6rEa5ZT99YuXXhawsCKnjxarmXKCBtzvJc7dPFgoQfUPa s4a+6ltsfXeqObsAVy/kLq+7iKXImv9SpbdF0/6X4OPg5zLxK6NqaBXcLnzu6BVjBXvhBu6 +WHhDS4ktvEA9cWmV2o9g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:95863 Stefan Monnier writes: >> tramp-default-method-alist. I don't see why it is better than the >> current behaviour. > > It's better because out of the box /: won't work any more (so it > can't collide with a local dir), but if people still like it, they can > get the old behavior by customizing tramp-default-method-alist. When you proposed to deprecate the /: syntax I said I'm with you from the implementation point of view. Now your proposal still includes this syntax, only discouraging people using it. So the promise of a simpler implementation is not true anymore. What's left is that we will annoy people, because tramp-default-method won't exist anymore. They will learn soon, that (add-to-list 'tramp-default-method-alist '(nil nil "scp") t) will restore the previous behaviour. We won't gain nothing. And everything just for the rare-or-even-not-existing case that a user has a local directory "/C:/" or similar. How often does it happen? I haven't seen such reports for years (maybe never, but I distrust my memory). Even this report is not based on an evidence in real life, but on a 13 years old message about a problem with ange-ftp. I don't believe this is sufficient for annoying Emacs users. And users with such a special local directory could use "/:/C:/" instead. Emacs supports this case already, and I've fixed some errors in the run of this report. call-process with such a default-directory does not work yet, but this is an error which could be fixed. It doesn't qualify to change the Tramp design. > Stefan Best regards, Michael.