From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package and testing rant (was Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:54:12 +0000 Message-ID: <87r3x7f8x7.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <87a943umku.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcvm7fj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wq72ls2h.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87k332lnn3.fsf_-_@ferrier.me.uk> <878ujhtx89.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <8761eki9ym.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87sihogkt0.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87sihncqxy.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415890505 31244 80.91.229.3 (13 Nov 2014 14:55:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Achim Gratz , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 13 15:54:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XovnR-0005TE-Pb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:54:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60362 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XovnR-0000PG-HF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:54:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xovmy-0008WK-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:54:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xovmq-0000An-WF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:54:24 -0500 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:56770 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xovmq-00009v-QN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:54:16 -0500 Original-Received: from nicferrier-dell-xps (unknown [46.233.116.248]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 13139AC02D9; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:12:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nicferrier-XPS13-9333 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nicferrier-dell-xps (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A04056BA00; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:54:12 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <87sihncqxy.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:53:13 +0000") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176915 Archived-At: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > Nic Ferrier writes: >> The centralization isn't really a problem right now you think. But I bet >> it is. You're making people work inside a source tree that doesn't >> belong to them and you're constraining the technical content they put >> there. >> >> You're also inviting people to break the Makefile because they want >> their own build. >> >> You're also inviting people to check in non-working code. >> >> You might say "these things have not happened yet". But that's because >> there are very few ELPA authors so far. Maybe one of the reasons there >> are so few ELPA authors is that it's weird. > > > There is some truth in this. I feel rather more nervous commting into > ELPA because it contains so many pieces of work from others. With my own > repo's, that's fine. If I screw things up, then it's my problem. Kinda implies there isn't any truth in the rest of it :-( Nic