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From: Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com>
To: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
Cc: 21816@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21816: elisp-mode-tests fails on a case-preserving filesystem
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 17:52:31 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r3k6uuhc.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ziyunuj3.fsf@fastmail.com>


Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> writes:

> Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> writes: 
>> Perhaps use German Eszett / sharp S / Unicode LATIN SMALL 
>> LETTER SHARP S? The words 'Strasse' and 'Straße' are 
>> equivalent, but typically the latter is up-cased to 'STRASSE', 
>> rather than 'STRAẞE'.
>
> Fsvo "typically".

Oh, sorry, by "typically", i meant "when writing in German", not 
"when doing case-conversions in computing".

> On Emacs, and in Windows filenames [fortuitously, they match in 
> this case. Unfortunately, I don't believe there's an easy way to 
> get at the table used in Windows], upcasing is done on a 
> character-by-character basis, and AIUI neither of them do this, 
> so (string= (upcase "Straße") "STRAßE").

*nod* A good example of why i think the Eszett might be useful for 
testing any proposed equivalence-relation or canonicalisation code 
- there are a variety of approaches "in the wild" re. TRT. Take 
SRFI 75, for example:

https://www.cs.utah.edu/~mflatt/tmp/srfi-75.html

in the section "String Procedures":

    (string<? "z" "ß") => #t (string<? "z" "zz") => #t (string<? 
    "z" "Z") => #f (string=? "Straße" "Strasse") => #f 
 
    (string-upcase "Hi") => "HI" (string-downcase "Hi") => "hi" 
    (string-foldcase "Hi") => "hi" 
 
    (string-upcase "Straße") => "STRASSE" (string-downcase 
    "Straße") => "straße" (string-foldcase "Straße") => "strasse" 
    (string-downcase "STRASSE")  => "strasse"


Alexis.





  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-04  6:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-02 16:41 bug#21816: elisp-mode-tests fails on a case-preserving filesystem Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-02 17:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 18:20   ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03  1:19     ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03  3:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03  9:17 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 10:06   ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 14:51     ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 14:58       ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 19:43         ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 22:24           ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-04  8:48           ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-09  3:38           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-02  0:57             ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 15:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 15:45         ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 15:52           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 16:04             ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 16:18               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 16:33                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 18:12                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-04  8:40                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 16:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 16:42                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 16:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 18:13                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 19:54                         ` Random832
2015-11-03 20:03                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 20:25                             ` Random832
2015-11-03 21:25                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 20:51                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04  8:19                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 18:18                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 20:56                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04  8:53                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 19:50                   ` Random832
2015-11-03 21:02                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 21:17                       ` Random832
2015-11-03 21:22                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 19:54                 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 20:05                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 21:07                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 21:52                     ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 22:07                       ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 22:18                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 22:20                         ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-04  3:46                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04  8:28                           ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-04  5:24                         ` Alexis
2015-11-04  6:33                           ` Random832
2015-11-04  6:52                             ` Alexis [this message]
2015-11-04 15:35                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 15:38                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04  9:04                           ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-04 10:37                             ` Alexis
2015-11-04 16:08                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 15:34                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 21:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 21:58                     ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-04  3:42                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 10:00                         ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-04 19:14                           ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 19:24         ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 21:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 15:29     ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-05 12:26       ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-05 13:23         ` Stephen Leake

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