From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: First draft of the Emacs website Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 11:44:47 +0100 Message-ID: <87r3j2v6g0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87io4lem98.fsf@petton.fr> <56604A9C.7080508@gmail.com> <87egf2wxw1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <831tb2imgm.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb8ev9bm.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb8eh6ae.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449225924 10659 80.91.229.3 (4 Dec 2015 10:45:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 10:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, john@yates-sheets.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 04 11:45:09 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a4nrR-0007Li-8U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 11:45:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39880 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4nrQ-0000wT-GW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 05:45:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46909) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4nr8-0000vV-8f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 05:44:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4nr7-0005at-Bw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 05:44:50 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35526) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4nr7-0005ap-8v; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 05:44:49 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49344 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1a4nr6-0004Y3-98; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 05:44:48 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CFAB5DF49B; Fri, 4 Dec 2015 11:44:47 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <83vb8eh6ae.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 04 Dec 2015 12:11:53 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195874 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: David Kastrup >> Cc: john@yates-sheets.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 10:42:37 +0100 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> >> From: David Kastrup >> >> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 07:06:38 +0100 >> >> Cc: Drew Adams , Emacs developers >> >> >> >> >> >> Why would a newcomer be interested in an old tool that merely does what >> >> the new tools already do? >> > >> > Because all the cool guys use it? >> >> You got me there. > > Maybe the Web site should have this somewhere, then. Shrug. Emacs is where the cool guys go when they have work to do. In particular, Emacs is not what the "cool guys" call a "chick magnet". The Emacs developer list is less frequented by women in my impression than the average gay bar. In Victorian England. So while we all love each other dearly, I am not sure we'd be doing us much of a favor by overadvertising how uniformly wonderful all of us are. Give people a chance to discover it on their own. -- David Kastrup