From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23276: 25.0.92; Crash in auto-revert when file no longer present Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 22:35:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87r3e5l2be.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87vb3hgzr1.fsf@gmx.de> <83fuulbcq7.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1460838991 27453 80.91.229.3 (16 Apr 2016 20:36:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 20:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23276@debbugs.gnu.org, andlind@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 16 22:36:20 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1arWx1-0004yE-Oc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2016 22:36:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33127 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1arWwx-0003An-My for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 16 Apr 2016 20:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23276) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2016 20:35:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37647 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1arWwA-0005Yf-Ht for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:35:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:50821) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1arWw9-0005YT-8O for 23276@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:35:25 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([93.209.82.129]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M2nfO-1bioLI2esY-00sf8H; Sat, 16 Apr 2016 22:35:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83fuulbcq7.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 16 Apr 2016 22:00:32 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:jWt3ebL5PWHsdWuynrwYTXvJ94eHx2qDYtiX9QrJbWfJduqFIO6 U7tyan0Rt9non7grZF8qRfJSc29fb0aWZ/QyPWe1uppIaZFCHvOmTOuC2jIw0G1AWGcP+9r o+llSflnHV8Wca+ipyfEIHIvPzJVcLBNGH84pTiWp2xg1oHDtq5c3KCVcvkSUV7PZ7b0u1O z/HcJeAKIf3ScyPuIPF2Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:/awmx32JJHg=:OwmasOHMabP6/BWrXfsDfy r3981IrqgxhFT9iK7PWrPmxw/+CNmqVN5k6qR9rC3A5Lh9XtUS+GvYd5pj0pO+rGSORlQx5zP QgjnlA35PF2JV2raE/+YS8Oik1jfVUBDhmdfefleCXOInIsebe2dQ0mpsjqo+owNUdBONKlFL C3Jr7o0u/40gTvmPNe1AR1sW66k2Y6unwxdcgRy38eCjCZoLSJt2HWmq6fSvAh/s8WAuYA/rC 0tKRabeTbwNB55nRzuKB+KIGvX5YXrbRD3a91d7ASDgw0y1agPnnCU0XW2dUCXD+cqNrGz8AY vc4h8GpIIfJ0750JeAwutqBL7SibqdHd/PfGvFFB/t/uQ7sanCijaCAVZly66LthqosdFcFVc bXWOrjQ0IO9Xdkjd+kSeTWqcjaPPnXgaxChLcKfn32vhlzLz8wxm6tipydPe6G4GyWTI6m8RZ umVYzplwlBov1ImLsbQtOwYcteM7md7BA8eoMM5PIEBvyQMgDx6v3mHXbkd8fhInMvXgsZdHE ogr1/o9t2EOStK0SpJuNidbS/Q2Z+++/6CfMdYfpL0vd5GJ0Lj9i5y2vJJPuzseXv/N1YMwoJ yyQD41LDzTJxYkdebtMgAfflSCe/mtEOpD2LF5KEQav17Kkvy4aqmk5YnqwgLclSRWP6wkiGI /KOQmCRqOFMnOEPi79oQXlxreh2+sCLbU+BsAPmCZQc2vF19uLnKqLFHTdFM7K2XBKTyCcWGj RZV7n7gYFwq6biOZb1hzB6iVgCrkL6qAN1UC0V8bQSHc/wo27WoQJqFgd4k1VD5Im/Fmv8BH X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:116540 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > It should have a comment explaining why errors are being ignored. OK. > And I still am not convinced that deleting a file under auto-revert > shouldn't erase its buffer. Otherwise, it sounds like just > half-auto-revert to me. What if we simply disable auto-revert-mode in this case? The user sees that the lighter "ARev" has been removed, and she knows that things have changed. > Would we keep the buffer non-empty if the file existed but was empty? Yes. > Thanks. Best regards, Michael.