From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20637: incompatible, undocumented change to vc-working-revision Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 14:53:19 +0200 Message-ID: <87r3e3m62o.fsf@gmx.de> References: <6ok2vyzwf9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <08f70cda-44be-0657-e50a-2b2c80d2c21c@yandex.ru> <87oa9dzgl0.fsf@gmx.de> <87potshczh.fsf@gmx.de> <87h9f4ghzg.fsf@gmx.de> <87oa97ksnr.fsf@gmx.de> <4df44cce-b7d5-a9cd-23a2-026de38588b2@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1460984071 12277 80.91.229.3 (18 Apr 2016 12:54:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 12:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20637@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 18 14:54:20 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1as8h1-0006wM-SZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Mon, 18 Apr 2016 12:54:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20637) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2016 12:53:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39040 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1as8gD-0002Ou-Oi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 08:53:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:59136) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1as8gB-0002Og-R2 for 20637@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 08:53:28 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.63.124]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MJjOu-1ar2kX0HW0-0017fk; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 14:53:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4df44cce-b7d5-a9cd-23a2-026de38588b2@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Mon, 18 Apr 2016 15:37:34 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:zzLcRz/sHyTTP6xtblTcwqbLQCUO9h4YEDYN8iexCPV1YqCi13R nmNLckQ12iTmzPlC9Kv4pkqdWMbPhQCk5Ek5ivLdehGl77mb0pQo5CaOdx3/HhpUyLTZQgN 3AsXH0RyxlQmJ3tq+dG0ss7Ue3J7CgTc47dDt4i6V436gV1uS93Gr9a7EWETwl8FG1NAcfF uuCzKZxCQy0Pl2rSMWx0A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:pBqPVdNGJt4=:QDo2bSKVgYyumMVDRmhpwt SmzgVzhWsdR2vGMZUsNsHN51eSvW1Y3TEK33LkGzG4ygGjzFeYbW3ckL4d5b2pcXutKZ9Wsqx erH6N4AQe+BHsp6WefFHBFUdEoUU/ABT6KzXbV6bQiVgX8LaUk1oifT/Kdx48oB8sI5zRoaQ1 sS/K8h//EG9LqoCF3iaqwad/VzWuPLxa7WKu4PjcBYtS07yaXDVfmxZ5bu59aQQSopsT47dPs BMBxnhUURmS8/h7x5qaWfcFGYBMartMFlyrx9VOB+U+elAf8fj/lpRcIh5pRg0LGqBLLV/eTK lTa3FtlYOBmu4uUewgXmgDS5QzN3uYjIRO3QlDN/mIZG0aVIEn+hNGqnsQg/YEJ/zLxNNGmEa j6qJAo9GR7fnGlz/krYV6j/tkXbIV+avvGVh9SdSlvDXG/v7cETI3s2C2TvLT6OAsqR4zRpMC Y1hJFTDHFuoWpaWIR2q+O6sMknLv75uGDvJwu7gg+MXf0oDPTtjpXfG2sUFq0RdubTNdtHFRM v4n0niemc3C7gRYHqTRPTSRRXGcaKNn77lmtol2SqImMcVFAqwGH33hAZemVJBSvRSzf24QQ2 BReBe5MlQZCuArSfNZjw130uoBiqma0S6WquIywTo6FIuyVhqegiF7wgU0uvY3H2dphoRHNnv qsdXoa1a+83t0TvQq+gxsQe2UCmZyBYocy9cLlpEIDl0WU2Cqc9ot7CFKHbiOjaAmHXBtnc/u aE5YA364L/oP/Mdogp1gJIqqP4jEPPLnjNZLlesWxQLXjYNNK4amIQCn3Bh96GfwBB+Rbk52 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:116591 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 04/18/2016 03:28 PM, Michael Albinus wrote: > >> As you know I'm conservative with the emacs-25 branch. Is it absolutely >> necessary that we do this? > > It would be a revert to the code that has been in use for a while. The current code has been in use for 11 months. Beside this bug report, nobody has worried about that. And the problems this bug report speaks about are solved, I believe. > Nothing absolutely necessary about that, but it might be prudent to > revert the changes made without clear understanding why they should be > made. Please correct me on this if I'm wrong, of course. Again, it is a matter of not touching code so close to a release. 35+ years experience in software development tell me so. Often enough I've changed just one single line, because "it is obvious it cannot be wrong". Haha. Best regards, Michael.